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If I hunt Mo it'll be on my own land when I decide to. Sorry bastards. I own 130 acres and brother owns 270 acres 1 mile south of the IA-MO state line but since I live in CO and he is across the line in Iowa we would have to buy non-resident tags to hunt on our own land. Pay MO taxes on income from the land and feed the deer year round but they don't think that is enough. I didn't realize they had gotten so stupid on the cost of a non-resident landowner permit. Yeah, Missouri is about half the cost of our neighboring states for no draw over the counter tags. See how easy to get and inexpensive it is for Kansas, Iowa and Illinois tags. What should happen is a reciprocal fee for non residents. If a non resident wants to grab an over the counter tag in Missouri and his home state charges $500 for non residents to hunt, then his tag fee in Missouri should be $500. And a non Resident has to draw in KS. Something around $480 if I looked at it right. Mom owns a farm in KS and I cannot get the special own land hunt tag because she isn't a resident. Called and talked to an agent last Monday to confirm. If I remember correctly Kansas didn't even allow non residents to hunt deer back in the early '90s and before.
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If I hunt Mo it'll be on my own land when I decide to. Sorry bastards. I own 130 acres and brother owns 270 acres 1 mile south of the IA-MO state line but since I live in CO and he is across the line in Iowa we would have to buy non-resident tags to hunt on our own land. Pay MO taxes on income from the land and feed the deer year round but they don't think that is enough. I didn't realize they had gotten so stupid on the cost of a non-resident landowner permit. Yeah, Missouri is about half the cost of our neighboring states for no draw over the counter tags. See how easy to get and inexpensive it is for Kansas, Iowa and Illinois tags. What should happen is a reciprocal fee for non residents. If a non resident wants to grab an over the counter tag in Missouri and his home state charges $500 for non residents to hunt, then his tag fee in Missouri should be $500. Why punish me, man, I didn't make the rules and regs. That would amount to just another tax on an average Joe, and for what? How would that benefit residents? What about all the money pumped into the economy by non-resident hunters? “Don’t hate the Playa, hate the game” ~ICE-T (The Seventh Deadly Sin, 1999).
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If I hunt Mo it'll be on my own land when I decide to. Sorry bastards. I own 130 acres and brother owns 270 acres 1 mile south of the IA-MO state line but since I live in CO and he is across the line in Iowa we would have to buy non-resident tags to hunt on our own land. Pay MO taxes on income from the land and feed the deer year round but they don't think that is enough. I didn't realize they had gotten so stupid on the cost of a non-resident landowner permit. Yeah, Missouri is about half the cost of our neighboring states for no draw over the counter tags. See how easy to get and inexpensive it is for Kansas, Iowa and Illinois tags. What should happen is a reciprocal fee for non residents. If a non resident wants to grab an over the counter tag in Missouri and his home state charges $500 for non residents to hunt, then his tag fee in Missouri should be $500. Why punish me, man, I didn't make the rules and regs. That would amount to just another tax on an average Joe, and for what? How would that benefit residents? What about all the money pumped into the economy by non-resident hunters? And by the way, just this weekend on Kansas WIHA ground open to hunting, I spoke with bowhunters from Louisiana, Texas and Wisconsin. I enjoy other hunters and talking about hunting - it doesn't matter what state they're from.
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Paying an equal fee is punishment?
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
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Headed to Milan MO from PA.
Leaving Wednesday.
My buddy, son and dad headed out. My other boy can't go. Has to work so he'll keep an eye on the land and help my wife take care of the place.
My buddy just archery hunted the same patch we will be gun hunting. They saw some very nice deer. Just out of bow range.
Good luck and be safe
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Headed to Milan MO from PA.
Leaving Wednesday.
My buddy, son and dad headed out. My other boy can't go. Has to work so he'll keep an eye on the land and help my wife take care of the place.
My buddy just archery hunted the same patch we will be gun hunting. They saw some very nice deer. Just out of bow range.
Good luck and be safe I hope you fellows have a good hunt and a safe one. That's a great part of the state, I think. Putnam county used to be the least populated county in Missouri, still may be.
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I'm sorry it looks like punishment. But if it happens, and the Mo Conservation Commission gets smart then push your state to ease the price of out of state licenses. I'm sure your legislators would help you. But hold onto your billfold while talking to them. You know how to tell they are lying to you. Be Well, RZ.
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I will be up in St Clair County this year, like always. The deer are in a bad way up there on Corps land, but I still go. I had all but decided to skip this year, but the closer it gets, the more I want to go.
As for the tag, is there any confirmation to the ability to use an unfilled rifle tag during blackpowder? I have always been told that as a non resident, its one tag per season, period. If this is the case, that could change my entire strategy. I can't answer you on the unfilled tag info but you can likely find it on the state website. Depending on where you live and how far you want to drive there are some better areas to hunt public land in Missouri. There's a state park within 10 miles of my place that joins corps ground. They rent cabins at the park. Were I hunting here from away I'd rent one of those cabins and a pontoon boat. the cabins are within 200 feet of the Mark Twain lake. I'd hunt the land all around the lake and some of it is excellent. You'd have company as it's public land but I think it could be made into a quality hunt. You might want to consider it for next year. We have a cabin on Truman, the entire reason for being there. I have limited access to some private land alongside Corps land, and some of the Corps stuff isnt bad if you get off the beaten path. More than anything, its Deer Camp, not the hunting, that gets me there. As an aside, I knew that it was now "Alternative Methods," just called it "blackpowder" for so long its habit. I have been misinformed all this time about tags carrying over, however. With this knowledge, the price of a non-resident tag doesn't sting quite as bad if I can get up there twice a year.
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I will be headed up tomorrow afternoon to my farm in Lewis County. Will do some bowhunting; weather Thursday may be rainy and very windy but who cares, it'll be great to be out. Was there last weekend archery hunting as well as prepping stands and stuff for the firearms hunt. Saw two really nice 10-point typicals. I'm getting fired up for the firearms opener!
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I will be up in St Clair County this year, like always. The deer are in a bad way up there on Corps land, but I still go. I had all but decided to skip this year, but the closer it gets, the more I want to go.
As for the tag, is there any confirmation to the ability to use an unfilled rifle tag during blackpowder? I have always been told that as a non resident, its one tag per season, period. If this is the case, that could change my entire strategy. I can't answer you on the unfilled tag info but you can likely find it on the state website. Depending on where you live and how far you want to drive there are some better areas to hunt public land in Missouri. There's a state park within 10 miles of my place that joins corps ground. They rent cabins at the park. Were I hunting here from away I'd rent one of those cabins and a pontoon boat. the cabins are within 200 feet of the Mark Twain lake. I'd hunt the land all around the lake and some of it is excellent. You'd have company as it's public land but I think it could be made into a quality hunt. You might want to consider it for next year. We have a cabin on Truman, the entire reason for being there. I have limited access to some private land alongside Corps land, and some of the Corps stuff isnt bad if you get off the beaten path. More than anything, its Deer Camp, not the hunting, that gets me there. As an aside, I knew that it was now "Alternative Methods," just called it "blackpowder" for so long its habit. I have been misinformed all this time about tags carrying over, however. With this knowledge, the price of a non-resident tag doesn't sting quite as bad if I can get up there twice a year. Sometimes the closer to the road is best. We hunted some conservation ground on the north end of Truman one year. Dad saw more deer than I did. I was hunting over a half mile from the truck, dad was within 100 yards. He saw deer daily and I only saw 1 deer the whole season. More actual sign where I was but he was seeing the deer. Probably a happy medium to it all.
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I'll be heading to Chariton County Thursday, to see family and probably do a little deer hunting.on family farmground. I've been doing that since I was sixteen or seventeen. I've rarely missed a season, but the last couple I've missed due to family illnesses here in Kentucky. Looking forward to getting back into it, and seeing family.
I've got some ground to hunt, thanks to family. Dunno what I'll do when the last of them die off, though.
Hell, I'd rather kill coyotes, but the possum cops will skin you if you're out there coyote hunting with a centerfire during deer season, so I might as well buy the deer tag. I'll still shoot the coyotes if I get the chance.
I grew up in the NE corner of Chariton County, near Linn Co and Macon Co. All were really great hotspots til the damned CWD got it's hold in the state.
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I will be down near Kirksville for muzzleloader again, definitely not going back to Indian Hills. Saw a few really good bucks last year but could not connect.
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Leaving for the Ozarks first thing in morning. It will be my 51st opening day on Saturday.
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I will be headed up tomorrow afternoon to my farm in Lewis County. Will do some bowhunting; weather Thursday may be rainy and very windy but who cares, it'll be great to be out. Was there last weekend archery hunting as well as prepping stands and stuff for the firearms hunt. Saw two really nice 10-point typicals. I'm getting fired up for the firearms opener! Hey crusader, where are you in Lewis County? My wife and I are building a new log home between Lewistown and LaBelle. Probably too busy to hunt this year as we are really trying to get finished enough to move in by Christmas. But hey, give a shout if you want. Les
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I will be in a big oak about 3 miles West of Edwards.
All day sits both Saturday and Sunday. See what the weekend brings and maybe have to do the same the 2nd weekend if I can't bump something off close to home during the week.
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Those all day sits can be very productive. Sometimes nice just to sit in a tree and watch the world go by.
Best of luck to you 10gaugemag.
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If I hunt Mo it'll be on my own land when I decide to. Sorry bastards. I own 130 acres and brother owns 270 acres 1 mile south of the IA-MO state line but since I live in CO and he is across the line in Iowa we would have to buy non-resident tags to hunt on our own land. Pay MO taxes on income from the land and feed the deer year round but they don't think that is enough. I didn't realize they had gotten so stupid on the cost of a non-resident landowner permit. Yeah, Missouri is about half the cost of our neighboring states for no draw over the counter tags. See how easy to get and inexpensive it is for Kansas, Iowa and Illinois tags. What should happen is a reciprocal fee for non residents. If a non resident wants to grab an over the counter tag in Missouri and his home state charges $500 for non residents to hunt, then his tag fee in Missouri should be $500. And a non Resident has to draw in KS. Something around $480 if I looked at it right. Mom owns a farm in KS and I cannot get the special own land hunt tag because she isn't a resident. Called and talked to an agent last Monday to confirm. If I remember correctly Kansas didn't even allow non residents to hunt deer back in the early '90s and before. Back when I was young and fairly fresh out of high school and not knowing where I may end up I purchased a lifetime hunting and fishing license for Kansas. Best $400 I have ever spent I can buy deer and turkey tags at resident prices and don't have to draw a tag
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That turned out to be a great deal- Torque! I bet 400$ seemed like a fortune back then, though.
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If I hunt Mo it'll be on my own land when I decide to. Sorry bastards. I own 130 acres and brother owns 270 acres 1 mile south of the IA-MO state line but since I live in CO and he is across the line in Iowa we would have to buy non-resident tags to hunt on our own land. Pay MO taxes on income from the land and feed the deer year round but they don't think that is enough. I didn't realize they had gotten so stupid on the cost of a non-resident landowner permit. Yeah, Missouri is about half the cost of our neighboring states for no draw over the counter tags. See how easy to get and inexpensive it is for Kansas, Iowa and Illinois tags. What should happen is a reciprocal fee for non residents. If a non resident wants to grab an over the counter tag in Missouri and his home state charges $500 for non residents to hunt, then his tag fee in Missouri should be $500. And a non Resident has to draw in KS. Something around $480 if I looked at it right. Mom owns a farm in KS and I cannot get the special own land hunt tag because she isn't a resident. Called and talked to an agent last Monday to confirm. If I remember correctly Kansas didn't even allow non residents to hunt deer back in the early '90s and before. Back when I was young and fairly fresh out of high school and not knowing where I may end up I purchased a lifetime hunting and fishing license for Kansas. Best $400 I have ever spent I can buy deer and turkey tags at resident prices and don't have to draw a tag I bought the hunting only lifetime license when I worked a few years in Wichita. I think it was $300 then. Is nice to have. I need to get off my butt and put in for elk at Ft. Riley.
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That turned out to be a great deal- Torque! I bet 400$ seemed like a fortune back then, though. Oh man it did.seem like a fortune back then. Late 80's I think I was making about $4 maybe 4.50 an hour working at a filling station
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