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Poot, Very nice, that fastback must scream...
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I guess I need to scroll through this huge sumbitch at some point and tally it up... does anyone CARE what the exact number is? I'd guess, 85/15 carrying hot? Seem about right?
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Why don't you do an actual poll, so you don't have to count? I, for one, would be interested in the results.
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My Promise:
I will NOT start another thread having to do with loaded or unloaded carry. No way, no how.
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YOU start it! Dang man, you think I'm nuts?!
I'll tally 'em up tonight or tomorrow.
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My Promise:
I will NOT start another thread having to do with loaded or unloaded carry. No way, no how.
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YOU start it! Dang man, you think I'm nuts?!
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My Promise:
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YOU start it! Dang man, you think I'm nuts?!
-jeff TFF.....I don't blame you +1 ! BT
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My Promise:
I will NOT start another thread having to do with loaded or unloaded carry. No way, no how.
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YOU start it! Dang man, you think I'm nuts?!
I'll tally 'em up tonight or tomorrow.
-jeff I don't blame you but thought I'd toss that idea out there anyway. I don't know about here at the Campfire, but in general my guess is that 99% of the hunters in North America hunt "hot."
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Well, I'd guess it's more in the high 80's myself, but it's really not relevant and it wasn't, and isn't, my intent to rub anyone's nose in this. I was curious. This last weekend, for a while there, I was getting just dogpiled by the empty chamber guys and I couldn't believe that "everyone" hunted that way, so I thought I'd start this and get a feel for the ratio.
My only comment at this point is, wow! Talk about a vocal minority!
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All right... gonna tally this up...
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Here's the results.
HOT: 47
COLD: 15
So... 68% carry hot. I tried to be completely accurate, but if someone said "I carry cold" on page 1, then said it again on page friggin' 11, I might have missed it and counted 'em twice. And of course, vice versa.
-jeff
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Jeff- if you really wanna drive yourself crazy take a look see and see where the people are located at and hunting. I believe you'll begin to see a trend.
Dober
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Hey Mark!
I am burned out... can't go there... care to share the trend you think you see?
Or are you smart enough not to step in poo?
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I'd be willing to bet that people who hunt in tight country (Minnesota etc) would be for carrying hot and or the prairie and or the south and or Tex etc and or the east. Not the friggin mtns is my point.
I'd also be for betting that a good share of the mtn hunting types (IE steep, deep and nasty) would be for running cold.
I could be way wrong been that many times b4.
Dober
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It's a factor that has been debated, that's for sure.
I dunno. Most of the cold guys insist that there's never a reason to have a round chambered.
If I were in open country where by definition, there'd be time to set up the shot, there might not be any reason to chamber- I can see that. Likewise, on a horse or cliff climbing, where the force of a fall could be greatly multiplied over what a person could generate, same thing.
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No one ever suggested the majority hunted cold chamber. Just as people once thought the Earth flat... and the majority concurred... most fail to see the obvious logic in hunting with a cold tube, but that tide is slowly turning.
IME the most experienced hunters have a much higher rate of cold chambers. When the inexperienced actually try it and realize it not only can be done, but done with time to spare that rate will climb.
But as someone posted above about the difficulty in hunting cold chamber and fumbling with getting shells out of their pocket??? That is not the voice of the experienced... art
Do not intend to demean the poster above, just think it bears noting for the clarity...
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When the inexperienced actually try it and realize it not only can be done, but done with time to spare that rate will climb. As previously stated,speed is not the only consideration for hunting with a round in the chamber.In fact,in my case it is the least important reason,the most important being the noise created by chambering a round.It really doesn't matter when hunting a less wary animal such as moose or caribou,but that mechanical sound will will spook a whitetail buck or bull elk.As I also stated previously,I do not always have a round in the chamber,doing so only in tight cover where game is regularly spotted at very close range.When mountain or prairie hunting or when hunting for animals such as moose,My chamber is normally empty.
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Most of the cold guys insist that there's never a reason to have a round chambered.
It's lines like that that get you in trouble, Jeff. "Most" and "never" and other dogmatically presented assertions can and will bring out the worst in people. I think that was what made the original comment distasteful to many. I can live with the opinion and practice in general assuming it takes into account the factors specific to a given situation and persons. The attitude suggested by the dogmatic presentation, however, is more difficult to fathom, much less swallow. I don't think that has to be further dissected at this point.
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But, in this particular situation, that statement is entirely justified. I don't think its a line that should get anyone in trouble, its just the fact of the matter in this particular instance.
Why pack all that messy meat out of the bush when we can just go to the grocery store where meat is made? Hell,if they sold antlers I would save so much money I could afford to go Dolphin fishing. Maybe even a baby seal safari.
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+1
IMO, you are kind of beating a dead horse at this point, Jeff...
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Stubby Sound is the problem, huh? Yet you are slipping along so quietly they just do not hear you? Let's forget stand hunting for a minute so we are talking only about still-hunting.
Just keep preaching the "I can't do it" sermon and you will surely be correct, though lots of others do it all the time. art
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