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6.5 Creedmoor Powder? #18788879 09/25/23 Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 13,114 colorado 3 338rcm OP Campfire Outfitter OP 338rcm Campfire Outfitter 3 Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 13,114 colorado What is your prefered powder with 140 grain bullets. R26 excluded

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? 338rcm #18788887 09/25/23 Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,303 Northeast USA B beretzs Campfire Ranger beretzs Campfire Ranger B Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,303 Northeast USA RL16, RL17, H or IMR 4350 Have worked well for me. Semper Fi

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? 338rcm #18788938 09/25/23 Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 3,741 Maryland woodson Campfire Tracker woodson Campfire Tracker Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 3,741 Maryland

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? woodson #18788963 09/25/23 Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,303 Northeast USA B beretzs Campfire Ranger beretzs Campfire Ranger B Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,303 Northeast USA Originally Posted by woodson Show off Semper Fi

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? 338rcm #18789102 09/25/23 Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,492 Calgary, AB, Canada Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,492 Calgary, AB, Canada H4350, StaBall, 4451.

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? 338rcm #18789121 09/25/23 Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 8,291 Northern USA P pete53 Campfire Outfitter pete53 Campfire Outfitter P Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 8,291 Northern USA i like Reloader 26 is my favorite in a 6.5 Creedmoor LIFE NRA , we vote Red up here, Norseman

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? 338rcm #18789160 09/25/23 Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 19,208 The Pennyrile of Kentucky JamesJr Campfire Ranger JamesJr Campfire Ranger Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 19,208 The Pennyrile of Kentucky H4350 and 6.5 Staball

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? 338rcm #18789226 09/25/23 Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,998 Cave Creek, AZ Blacktailer Campfire Tracker Blacktailer Campfire Tracker Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,998 Cave Creek, AZ Got any recipes for the 143ELDX? I have all of the mentioned powders. I am continually astounded at how quickly people make up their minds on little evidence or none at all. Jack O'Connor

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? 338rcm #18789229 09/25/23 Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 28,239 W. Texas J JGRaider Campfire Ranger JGRaider Campfire Ranger J Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 28,239 W. Texas H4350, RL16, RL17, Ramshot Hunter. It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? 338rcm #18789250 09/25/23 Joined: Mar 2021 Posts: 567 South Eastern West Virginia 8 84Mtn_EER Campfire Regular 84Mtn_EER Campfire Regular 8 Joined: Mar 2021 Posts: 567 South Eastern West Virginia 46gr of H4831sc with your 143gr ELD-X. H4350 is good but there are some awesome underrated powders out there like StaBall6.5, Hunter, and Reloder 16 Last edited by 84Mtn_EER; 09/25/23.

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? beretzs #18789258 09/25/23 Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,038 Battle Born B bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,038 Battle Born Originally Posted by beretzs Originally Posted by woodson Show off That's almost a years supply.. Originally Posted by raybass I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Originally Posted by Pharmseller You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? 338rcm #18789273 09/25/23 Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 151,254 Texas hanco Campfire Savant hanco Campfire Savant Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 151,254 Texas IMR 4350

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? 338rcm #18789400 09/25/23 Joined: Nov 2020 Posts: 545 west TN E EFHutton Campfire Regular EFHutton Campfire Regular E Joined: Nov 2020 Posts: 545 west TN H4350 is the only one I’ve tried, sub MOA groups with 143 gr & 129 gr pills.

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? EFHutton #18789493 09/25/23 Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,038 Battle Born B bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,038 Battle Born Originally Posted by EFHutton H4350 is the only one I’ve tried, sub MOA groups with 143 gr & 129 gr pills. H4350 is really all you need, if you can find it. I've tried these: Very happy with the majority, but superformance is finicky. Been seeing that with some of my 22-250 loads as well. Originally Posted by raybass I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Originally Posted by Pharmseller You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? 338rcm #18789546 09/25/23 Joined: Jun 2020 Posts: 1,804 Houston, TX S Stammster Campfire Regular Stammster Campfire Regular S Joined: Jun 2020 Posts: 1,804 Houston, TX Triple Nickel

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? bsa1917hunter #18789744 09/26/23 Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,980 C Castle_Rock Campfire Regular Castle_Rock Campfire Regular C Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,980 Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter Originally Posted by EFHutton H4350 is the only one I’ve tried, sub MOA groups with 143 gr & 129 gr pills. Very happy with the majority, but superformance is finicky. Been seeing that with some of my 22-250 loads as well. What issue are you seeing?

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? 338rcm #18789897 09/26/23 Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,918 B Bearcat74 Campfire Tracker Bearcat74 Campfire Tracker B Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,918 H4350 When I die I hope I don't start voting democrat.

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? 338rcm #18789950 09/26/23 Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 17,242 Northern Louisiana JPro Campfire Ranger JPro Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 17,242 Northern Louisiana I shoot RL26, but would likely shoot anything from the 4350 burn rate on up. I’m trying to make some speed, as my barrel is 18”. RL26 gets me mid 2600s with the 143eldx without standing on it too hard. Now with even more aplomb

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? 338rcm #18790143 09/26/23 Joined: Aug 2022 Posts: 1,948 ‘Murca drop_point Campfire Regular drop_point Campfire Regular Joined: Aug 2022 Posts: 1,948 ‘Murca H4350 "Full time night woman? I never could find no tracks on a woman's heart. I packed me a squaw for ten year, Pilgrim. Cheyenne, she were, and the meanest bitch that ever balled for beads."

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? 338rcm #18790536 09/26/23 Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 612 NW Ohio B BooBear Campfire Regular BooBear Campfire Regular B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 612 NW Ohio Mine likes H4350 the best

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? Castle_Rock #18790870 09/26/23 Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,038 Battle Born B bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,038 Battle Born Originally Posted by Castle_Rock Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter Originally Posted by EFHutton H4350 is the only one I’ve tried, sub MOA groups with 143 gr & 129 gr pills. Very happy with the majority, but superformance is finicky. Been seeing that with some of my 22-250 loads as well. What issue are you seeing? Just bigger groups, as the temps go up. To be fair, some of those loads were developed in the fall/winter months and shot in the summer time. It happens more so with some powders. I find H4350 to be much more stable. When developing loads, you can see the nodes and it doesn't take much to fall out of that node when using superformance. I've also seen that in some 300WSM loads, using superformance powder. In the pic above, those 2 pounds I have left, may be the last 2 I mess with. Originally Posted by raybass I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Originally Posted by Pharmseller You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? 84Mtn_EER #18791106 09/26/23 Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,998 Cave Creek, AZ Blacktailer Campfire Tracker Blacktailer Campfire Tracker Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,998 Cave Creek, AZ Originally Posted by 84Mtn_EER 46gr of H4831sc with your 143gr ELD-X. H4350 is good but there are some awesome underrated powders out there like StaBall6.5, Hunter, and Reloder 16 Thanks I have some sc as well as Staball and 4350 so I'll give those a try. I am continually astounded at how quickly people make up their minds on little evidence or none at all. Jack O'Connor

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? Blacktailer #18791300 09/26/23 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 5,043 Alaska Hudge Campfire Tracker Hudge Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 5,043 Alaska Originally Posted by Blacktailer Got any recipes for the 143ELDX? I have all of the mentioned powders. I tried almost all powders but RL26 in my 6.5 CM, but it likes 44.6 gr of Superformance with 143 ELD-X’s the best.

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? 338rcm #18791428 09/26/23 Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 443 B Bry Campfire Member Bry Campfire Member B Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 443 I’m still new at reloading in general and just recently picked up a Ruger American Predator in 6.5 Creed. Mentioned it in Mule Deer’s short essay on the 6.5 Creedmoor. Working with what I had on hand I shot this group in the rain last Saturday. Load was 40.5gr of Big Game under a 143gr ELD-X in new mystery primed Hornady Brass from Mid South. I measured case length and then seated a bullet with a cheap set of Lee Pacesetter dies at a COL of 2.8”. Next will try mag primers in the once fired brass but I’m not complaining with the results so far.

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? 338rcm #18791818 09/26/23 Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 13,114 colorado 3 338rcm OP Campfire Outfitter OP 338rcm Campfire Outfitter 3 Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 13,114 colorado Will be giving Ramshot Hunter a try

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? 338rcm #18792151 09/26/23 Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 2,621 Vermont PintsofCraft Campfire Regular PintsofCraft Campfire Regular Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 2,621 Vermont I’m on the Ramshot Hunter train and have been very happy.

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? JamesJr #18792383 09/26/23 Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,229 Wet Side, WA P Puddle Campfire Regular Puddle Campfire Regular P Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,229 Wet Side, WA Originally Posted by JamesJr H4350 and 6.5 Staball Yup It's you and the bullet, and all the rest is secondary.

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? 338rcm #18792418 09/26/23 Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 13,114 colorado 3 338rcm OP Campfire Outfitter OP 338rcm Campfire Outfitter 3 Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 13,114 colorado What velocities are you guys seeing with 6.5 Staball and 140s?

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? 338rcm #18792441 09/26/23 Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,980 C Castle_Rock Campfire Regular Castle_Rock Campfire Regular C Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,980 Thanks BSA

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? 338rcm #18792613 09/26/23 Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 6,378 N.E. Mn./ Mt H handwerk Campfire Tracker handwerk Campfire Tracker H Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 6,378 N.E. Mn./ Mt shooting 127 LRX's I've had good results with 3, R16, RL 17 and big game.

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? 338rcm #18792914 09/27/23 Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 17,242 Northern Louisiana JPro Campfire Ranger JPro Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 17,242 Northern Louisiana I’ve got a few boxes of 127s on the shelf and a bunch of RL17 and Big Game. How are speeds? Now with even more aplomb

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? JPro #18792928 09/27/23 Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,303 Northeast USA B beretzs Campfire Ranger beretzs Campfire Ranger B Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,303 Northeast USA Originally Posted by JPro I’ve got a few boxes of 127s on the shelf and a bunch of RL17 and Big Game. How are speeds? In my 24" Tikka I got 2940'ish with 42.4 RL17 in Alpha cases and BR2's with the 127. It was very good shooting. Semper Fi

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? beretzs #18792984 09/27/23 Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 1,877 west tn. R Remington280 Campfire Regular Remington280 Campfire Regular R Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 1,877 west tn. Originally Posted by beretzs Originally Posted by JPro I’ve got a few boxes of 127s on the shelf and a bunch of RL17 and Big Game. How are speeds? In my 24" Tikka I got 2940'ish with 42.4 RL17 in Alpha cases and BR2's with the 127. It was very good shooting. Wish I could find RL17, HMM-161, HMM-364 Semper Fi Brothers

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? Remington280 #18792985 09/27/23 Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,303 Northeast USA B beretzs Campfire Ranger beretzs Campfire Ranger B Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,303 Northeast USA Originally Posted by Remington280 Originally Posted by beretzs Originally Posted by JPro I’ve got a few boxes of 127s on the shelf and a bunch of RL17 and Big Game. How are speeds? In my 24" Tikka I got 2940'ish with 42.4 RL17 in Alpha cases and BR2's with the 127. It was very good shooting. Wish I could find RL17, Same here! Semper Fi

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? 338rcm #18793048 09/27/23 Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,038 Battle Born B bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,038 Battle Born Originally Posted by 338rcm What velocities are you guys seeing with 6.5 Staball and 140s? 2600 2690 I tried running hotter (book max), but groups were not as good. Originally Posted by raybass I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Originally Posted by Pharmseller You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? JPro #18793057 09/27/23 Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,038 Battle Born B bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,038 Battle Born Originally Posted by JPro I’ve got a few boxes of 127s on the shelf and a bunch of RL17 and Big Game. How are speeds? I wouldn't expect more than 2,800 fps with those powders. Probably good accuracy though. I don't fool around with going over book max. Check StaBall 6.5, if you want a little more speed. I've found pretty good accuracy with that powder as well. Originally Posted by raybass I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Originally Posted by Pharmseller You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? 338rcm #18793427 09/27/23 Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,229 Wet Side, WA P Puddle Campfire Regular Puddle Campfire Regular P Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,229 Wet Side, WA Originally Posted by 338rcm What velocities are you guys seeing with 6.5 Staball and 140s? Staball 6.5 is basically my substitute for H4350 when I'm hoarding H4350 for other projects. From the 22" barrel the 143 ELD-X flies 2,613 fps using 41.7 grains of H4350. Using Staball 6.5 I fill just about 1/2 grain more to reach equal MVs and group sizes. It's you and the bullet, and all the rest is secondary.

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? 338rcm #18793446 09/27/23 Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 8,454 State of Jefferson T T_O_M Campfire Outfitter T_O_M Campfire Outfitter T Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 8,454 State of Jefferson Originally Posted by 338rcm What is your prefered powder with 140 grain bullets. R26 excluded H4350, IMR 4451, RL17, StaBall 6.5. First among them in H4350. Tom Anyone who thinks there's two sides to everything hasn't met a M�bius strip. Here be dragons ...

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? PintsofCraft #18794395 09/27/23 Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,547 A Aviator Campfire Regular Aviator Campfire Regular A Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,547 Originally Posted by PintsofCraft I’m on the Ramshot Hunter train and have been very happy. I’ve been wanting to try Hunter in my Fieldcraft with 140 Accubonds. I’m interested in hearing about your loads?

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? 338rcm #18816137 10/04/23 Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,389 Mayberry S stomatador Campfire Regular stomatador Campfire Regular S Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,389 Mayberry My 18.5" fieldcraft likes viht n555 with 140 & 147 gr eld-m's. What would Porter Rockwell do?

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? 338rcm #18817728 10/05/23 Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 634 Wyoming ttpoz Campfire Regular ttpoz Campfire Regular Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 634 Wyoming My 6.5 CM has performed well with Hunter, Big Game, I4350, and H4350. But it really shines with StaBall 6.5 through it's 20" barrel. I'd like to play with RL26 but haven't been able to get my hands on any. ttpoz in silvam ne ligna feras (don't carry logs into the forest)

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? 338rcm #18817959 10/05/23 Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 205 W WEL Campfire Member WEL Campfire Member W Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 205 H4350 is the original powder used by Hornady. Fed 210m primer. If your rifle won’t shoot that with a 140 sell it.

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? Blacktailer #18818267 10/05/23 Joined: May 2009 Posts: 17,260 Cheyenne, Wy Fotis Campfire Ranger Fotis Campfire Ranger Joined: May 2009 Posts: 17,260 Cheyenne, Wy Originally Posted by Blacktailer Got any recipes for the 143ELDX? I have all of the mentioned powders. https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com μολὼν λαβέ "Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? 338rcm #18818274 10/05/23 Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 1,277 A anothergun Campfire Regular anothergun Campfire Regular A Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 1,277 what rifle did you shoot it out of ?

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? 338rcm #18818400 10/05/23 Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 19,208 The Pennyrile of Kentucky JamesJr Campfire Ranger JamesJr Campfire Ranger Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 19,208 The Pennyrile of Kentucky This is a 3 shot group at 500 yards that measured just slightly less than 1 1/2 inches. Load was 41.0 H4350, CCI 200 primer, 140 Barnes Match Burner bullet, in a Hornady case. The rifle and load can probably do better, but with my 73 year old eyes, don't know if I could.

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? 338rcm #18818442 10/05/23 Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,229 Wet Side, WA P Puddle Campfire Regular Puddle Campfire Regular P Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,229 Wet Side, WA I have 143's loaded with 44 gr. Staball 6.5 I'll be running past the chrony. Looking for low SD's and ES's. Too many other loads using H4350 so looking to off-load one of 'em with something equivalent or better. It's you and the bullet, and all the rest is secondary.

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? JamesJr #18818500 10/05/23 Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,038 Battle Born B bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,038 Battle Born Originally Posted by Puddle I have 143's loaded with 44 gr. Staball 6.5 I'll be running past the chrony. Looking for low SD's and ES's. Too many other loads using H4350 so looking to off-load one of 'em with something equivalent or better. StaBall 6.5 is not going to be "better" per se, but it will be a good substitution. I use it when I don't want to dip into my stash of H4350. I was out with my Tikka superlite yesterday, checking a couple different loads. One being the one I use in one of my CTR's. It did alright in my superlite, even though it was tailored around another rifle: I was going to check it at the 400 yard range, but there was a line of hunters checking their rifles. Deer season is on us over here. Originally Posted by JamesJr This is a 3 shot group at 500 yards that measured just slightly less than 1 1/2 inches. Load was 41.0 H4350, CCI 200 primer, 140 Barnes Match Burner bullet, in a Hornady case. The rifle and load can probably do better, but with my 73 year old eyes, don't know if I could. Looks like it's shooting great James.. Originally Posted by raybass I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Originally Posted by Pharmseller You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? bsa1917hunter #18829034 10/09/23 Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,229 Wet Side, WA P Puddle Campfire Regular Puddle Campfire Regular P Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,229 Wet Side, WA Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter Originally Posted by Puddle I have 143's loaded with 44 gr. Staball 6.5 I'll be running past the chrony. Looking for low SD's and ES's. Too many other loads using H4350 so looking to off-load one of 'em with something equivalent or better. StaBall 6.5 is not going to be "better" per se, but it will be a good substitution. I use it when I don't want to dip into my stash of H4350. I was out with my Tikka superlite yesterday, checking a couple different loads. One being the one I use in one of my CTR's. It did alright in my superlite, even though it was tailored around another rifle: Finally got around to trying StaBall 6.5 in the 6.5CM factory 22" barrel this morning. The best load of the bunch was 44.0 grains with a 5-shot MV average of 2,721 fps and S-D of 4.6, and E-S of 12. I'm going to tinker with 0.2 grains on either side of the 44 grain load and see what happens. In any case, I think it's time I rustle up a keg of StaBall 6.5 It's you and the bullet, and all the rest is secondary.

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? 338rcm #18850420 10/17/23 Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,994 NW Oregon B bowmanh Campfire Regular bowmanh Campfire Regular B Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,994 NW Oregon I've used both H4350 and RL-16 successfully with 140s. I've got some StaBall 6.5 but haven't tried it yet.

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? Puddle #18850699 10/17/23 Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,229 Wet Side, WA P Puddle Campfire Regular Puddle Campfire Regular P Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,229 Wet Side, WA Originally Posted by Puddle Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter Originally Posted by Puddle I have 143's loaded with 44 gr. Staball 6.5 I'll be running past the chrony. Looking for low SD's and ES's. Too many other loads using H4350 so looking to off-load one of 'em with something equivalent or better. StaBall 6.5 is not going to be "better" per se, but it will be a good substitution. I use it when I don't want to dip into my stash of H4350. I was out with my Tikka superlite yesterday, checking a couple different loads. One being the one I use in one of my CTR's. It did alright in my superlite, even though it was tailored around another rifle: Finally got around to trying StaBall 6.5 in the 6.5CM factory 22" barrel this morning. The best load of the bunch was 44.0 grains with a 5-shot MV average of 2,721 fps and S-D of 4.6, and E-S of 12. I'm going to tinker with 0.2 grains on either side of the 44 grain load and see what happens. In any case, I think it's time I rustle up a keg of StaBall 6.5 I tried both sides of 44.0 grains and 44.0 ended up the most consistent. Oh, yea, and I went ahead and bought a keg. Next up is the 143 grain BondStrike bullet using StaBALL 6.5. It would be nice if they group best with a charge of 44.0 grains, but I doubt I'll be that lucky. I'll find out tomorrow. It's you and the bullet, and all the rest is secondary.

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? 338rcm #18850891 10/17/23 Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 10,835 rcamuglia Campfire Outfitter rcamuglia Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 10,835 Winchester 760 or H-414 will work Originally Posted by Bristoe The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? rcamuglia #18850985 10/17/23 Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 19,208 The Pennyrile of Kentucky JamesJr Campfire Ranger JamesJr Campfire Ranger Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 19,208 The Pennyrile of Kentucky Originally Posted by rcamuglia Winchester 760 or H-414 will work Never tried 760 with anything but the 120 grains in the 6.5, but it really produced an accurate load.

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? JamesJr #18850996 10/17/23 Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 10,835 rcamuglia Campfire Outfitter rcamuglia Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 10,835 Originally Posted by JamesJr Originally Posted by rcamuglia Winchester 760 or H-414 will work Never tried 760 with anything but the 120 grains in the 6.5, but it really produced an accurate load. Load data straight from Hornady before much was published. He told me if I wanted a bit more velocity, use 760. I shot a course record matching score of 58 (at that time. 59 was shot by a friend subsequently) at Whittington’s Sporting Rifle Match with that 760 load Originally Posted by Bristoe The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? 338rcm #18851000 10/17/23 Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 10,835 rcamuglia Campfire Outfitter rcamuglia Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 10,835 139 Scenar Originally Posted by Bristoe The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? 338rcm #18852847 10/18/23 Joined: Sep 2023 Posts: 158 California A Amazincaucasian Campfire Member Amazincaucasian Campfire Member A Joined: Sep 2023 Posts: 158 California H4350 and 140gr & 143gr for multiple rifles, all sub moa shooters.. Sta-ball is temp sensitive, I have 11lbs left that I'll burn up in gas guns for plinking and never buy it again.

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? Jordan Smith #19222756 02/17/24 Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 23,631 MontanaMan Campfire Ranger MontanaMan Campfire Ranger Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 23,631 Originally Posted by Jordan Smith H4350, StaBall, 4451. So what real world velocities are all you H4350 lovers getting? In 22" barrels Book numbers for velocity with 4350 are considerably lower than those for StaBall 6.5 or RL-16. I'm about to start load development for a new rifle & have all of those plus plenty of other choices. Thanks. MM

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? MontanaMan #19223026 02/17/24 Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,229 Wet Side, WA P Puddle Campfire Regular Puddle Campfire Regular P Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,229 Wet Side, WA Originally Posted by MontanaMan Originally Posted by Jordan Smith H4350, StaBall, 4451. So what real world velocities are all you H4350 lovers getting? In 22" barrels Book numbers for velocity with 4350 are considerably lower than those for StaBall 6.5 or RL-16. I'm about to start load development for a new rifle & have all of those plus plenty of other choices. Thanks. MM I'm loading 143's in my hunting rifle with a 22" barrel. H4350 gets me just over 2,600 fps. With StaBALL 6.5 I'm getting 2,700+ fps. Next up is N555 later this year. It's you and the bullet, and all the rest is secondary.

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? 338rcm #19223303 02/17/24 Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 23,631 MontanaMan Campfire Ranger MontanaMan Campfire Ranger Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 23,631 Thank you. That's about the difference I'm seeing from most sources, maybe a little less than some. MM

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? MontanaMan #19223403 02/17/24 Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,492 Calgary, AB, Canada Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,492 Calgary, AB, Canada Originally Posted by MontanaMan Originally Posted by Jordan Smith H4350, StaBall, 4451. So what real world velocities are all you H4350 lovers getting? In 22" barrels Book numbers for velocity with 4350 are considerably lower than those for StaBall 6.5 or RL-16. I'm about to start load development for a new rifle & have all of those plus plenty of other choices. Thanks. MM In 22” barrels, I’m getting 2630-2650 at the muzzle with H4350 and the 147 ELD.

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? JamesJr #19223965 02/18/24 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,560 Gallatin Co. Montana C CP Campfire Regular CP Campfire Regular C Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,560 Gallatin Co. Montana StaBALL 6.5 and Reloder-17 have been challenging in a similar fashion for me. Velocity gains over my traditional loadings has been a given with these powders, but obtaining accuracy has been a fight. However, in my 6.5 Creedmoor and .270, I have worked up loads with StaBALL that are accuracy-competitive to my traditional H4350 and H4831 loadings, while at the same time I have gained 75-100 ft/sec.in velocity

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? MontanaMan #19224310 02/18/24 Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,303 Northeast USA B beretzs Campfire Ranger beretzs Campfire Ranger B Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,303 Northeast USA Originally Posted by MontanaMan Originally Posted by Jordan Smith H4350, StaBall, 4451. So what real world velocities are all you H4350 lovers getting? In 22" barrels Book numbers for velocity with 4350 are considerably lower than those for StaBall 6.5 or RL-16. I'm about to start load development for a new rifle & have all of those plus plenty of other choices. Thanks. MM I am using 40.5 grains of H4350, CCI200, 147 ELD, Alpha brass. In my 22" Kimber Montana I am getting 2680 from those. RL17 and 26 are a bit faster, but I haven't messed with 16 or SB6.5 which should both be pretty good as well. Semper Fi

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? bsa1917hunter #19246664 02/25/24 Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,994 NW Oregon B bowmanh Campfire Regular bowmanh Campfire Regular B Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,994 NW Oregon Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter Originally Posted by JPro I’ve got a few boxes of 127s on the shelf and a bunch of RL17 and Big Game. How are speeds? I wouldn't expect more than 2,800 fps with those powders. Probably good accuracy though. I don't fool around with going over book max. Check StaBall 6.5, if you want a little more speed. I've found pretty good accuracy with that powder as well. I've been getting about 2870 fps and good accuracy with 44.0 grains of RL-16 and the 127 g LRX in a Weatherby Vanguard with a 24 inch barrel.

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? 338rcm #19254537 02/28/24 Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 6,518 Western Kentucky lastround Campfire Tracker lastround Campfire Tracker Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 6,518 Western Kentucky I shoot the 120 gr. Ballistic Tip almost exclusively in my 6.5 Creedmoor over 39.5 gr. Of Varget for a velocity of 2900 fps. Very accurate in my Tikka T3x. If we live long enough, we all have regrets. But the ones that nag at us the most are the ones in which we know we had a choice. Doug

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? 338rcm #19256031 02/28/24 Joined: Mar 2021 Posts: 567 South Eastern West Virginia 8 84Mtn_EER Campfire Regular 84Mtn_EER Campfire Regular 8 Joined: Mar 2021 Posts: 567 South Eastern West Virginia Previously I posted about using StaBall6.5 and Reloder 16 and others have as well. Since that time, I have started shooting / trying Hybrid100v in my Bergara Premier mountain 22in. I haven't tried that powder with the 140 class bullets but with 130 Sierras, and 130 Nosler Accubonds I've been getting 2930s with both bullets combined with great hunting accuracy (.6 and smaller) at 100yds.

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? 338rcm #19258177 02/29/24 Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 23,631 MontanaMan Campfire Ranger MontanaMan Campfire Ranger Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 23,631 That's very interesting. I've never used 100V, but I see that it's readily available. I'm working with a new gun & the 130 Sierra is one of the 2 bullets I'm planning to work with, along with the Berger 135. StaBall 6.5 & RL-16 are the 2 powders I want to wring out, but that is great velocity & great accuracy with that powder. I really don't want to stock another powder as I have plenty of the others, but depending on results, it's always nice to have another potentially good powder available. H4350 may be great but it comes up short on velocity. What kind of rifle, barrel length? MM

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? MontanaMan #19258369 02/29/24 Joined: Mar 2021 Posts: 567 South Eastern West Virginia 8 84Mtn_EER Campfire Regular 84Mtn_EER Campfire Regular 8 Joined: Mar 2021 Posts: 567 South Eastern West Virginia Originally Posted by MontanaMan That's very interesting. I've never used 100V, but I see that it's readily available. I'm working with a new gun & the 130 Sierra is one of the 2 bullets I'm planning to work with, along with the Berger 135. StaBall 6.5 & RL-16 are the 2 powders I want to wring out, but that is great velocity & great accuracy with that powder. I really don't want to stock another powder as I have plenty of the others, but depending on results, it's always nice to have another potentially good powder available. H4350 may be great but it comes up short on velocity. What kind of rifle, barrel length? MM MM my rifle is a Bergara Premier Mountain 2.0 with a 22in barrel. Reloder 16 and StaBall6.5 have been good for me as well, and H4350 is good as well. FWIW, Im getting 2834 fps with 42.4gr of H4350 and the 130gr Sierra HPBT Gameking. I haven't tried the H4350 with the 130 Sierra Gamechanger in this particular rifle. My son has a Mossberg Patriot that shoots the Gamechanger over 41.5gr of H4350 but I dont have a velocity on that one.

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? 338rcm #19260587 03/01/24 Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 23,631 MontanaMan Campfire Ranger MontanaMan Campfire Ranger Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 23,631 84Mtn................thanks for posting that. H4350 is still on my list but, secondary to RL-16 & StaBall 6.5, at least until I see what they will do, but that's the 1st solid data I've seen with 130's & H4350. MM

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor Powder? Puddle #19260871 03/01/24 Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,229 Wet Side, WA P Puddle Campfire Regular Puddle Campfire Regular P Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,229 Wet Side, WA Originally Posted by Puddle Originally Posted by Puddle Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter Originally Posted by Puddle I have 143's loaded with 44 gr. Staball 6.5 I'll be running past the chrony. Looking for low SD's and ES's. Too many other loads using H4350 so looking to off-load one of 'em with something equivalent or better. StaBall 6.5 is not going to be "better" per se, but it will be a good substitution. I use it when I don't want to dip into my stash of H4350. I was out with my Tikka superlite yesterday, checking a couple different loads. One being the one I use in one of my CTR's. It did alright in my superlite, even though it was tailored around another rifle: Finally got around to trying StaBall 6.5 in the 6.5CM factory 22" barrel this morning. The best load of the bunch was 44.0 grains with a 5-shot MV average of 2,721 fps and S-D of 4.6, and E-S of 12. I'm going to tinker with 0.2 grains on either side of the 44 grain load and see what happens. In any case, I think it's time I rustle up a keg of StaBall 6.5 I tried both sides of 44.0 grains and 44.0 ended up the most consistent. Oh, yea, and I went ahead and bought a keg. Next up is the 143 grain BondStrike bullet using StaBALL 6.5. It would be nice if they group best with a charge of 44.0 grains, but I doubt I'll be that lucky. I'll find out tomorrow. The BondStrike just had to be a little different. 43.9 gr. StaBall 6.5 vs the ELDX with 44.0 gr. StaBall 6.5. Sheesh. It's you and the bullet, and all the rest is secondary.