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The lights were on on that ship until the bridge collapsed on it and took out the front light. Only some of the lights went off for a few seconds, then came back on before impact.
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Also - that bridge is the Hazmat, Oversize/Over dimensional route in/out of Baltimore harbor area. 3rd largest US Eastern Seaport - the impact on the area will be massive.
Horrible event - At that point, it would have been under control of a harbor pilot no? Lots of black smoke too - wonder if there was a catastrophic loss of motive power (lights out) creating an inability to steer and hit the pillar.
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Wow…what a nightmare for the folks on the bridge. God be with the rescue workers and the victims.
I’m sure the dong-huffing sec of transportation will attempt to wheel out racism, climate, and Trump later today as the causes for the incident. Caused by racism, Climate Change, and Trump according to Mayor Pete. You're probably right.
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Drunk ship captain more like it. That's exactly what I was just thinking. after all, you can't get pulled over by a state trooper for a breath test when you are driving a boat in the harbor.
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Just saw this. Theories abound but at 130 am some people went 185 feet down in their cars to a black, watery grave. Let’s just remember that this morning.
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Drunk ship captain more like it. That's exactly what I was just thinking. after all, you can't get pulled over by a state trooper for a breath test when you are driving a boat in the harbor. Linky - videoDrunk captains lose power several times before hitting a bridge? Terrorists often commit their attacks at the LEAST populated times in the morning for the lowest level of possible effect - right? 1am?
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WOW... Thanks for posting that...
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one would think the harbor pilot would have aborted the departure..............
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I watched both views of that impact from behind and from in front. it certainly look like it was steered into the pillar to me..
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one would think the harbor pilot would have aborted the departure.............. I suspect we'll see a combo of 2 things. 1. Power loss while executing navigational maneuvers put the ship in a position without steering and adrift in the middle of a turn to starboard. 2. Power was regained, engines pushed full power (the thick smoke) and the attempt to then turn HARD to starboard to take that pilling down the port side of the boat. There wasn't enough room and it was made worse by the 2nd loss of power. No power= not enough water over the rudders to provide positive maneuverability. They'll determine mechanical failure compounded by decision to continue/attempt a hard starboard turn rather than go port to put the pilling down the starboard side of the ship. (swing wide, instead of cut sharp) And that's just a SWAG based off the video. I'm not an NTSB inspector at all but I've driven boats. Those that have understand that power gives you steering, lack of power SUCKS big time.
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1) complete rescue/recovery 2) complete investigation. 3) get demolition crews in there and open shipping lanes through the wreckage. 4) re-evaluate and adjust use of tunnels. 5) get barges/ferries in place for land based freight transport to cross. 6) bulld a new damn bridge.
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Drunk ship captain more like it. That's exactly what I was just thinking. after all, you can't get pulled over by a state trooper for a breath test when you are driving a boat in the harbor. Linky - videoDrunk captains lose power several times before hitting a bridge? Terrorists often commit their attacks at the LEAST populated times in the morning for the lowest level of possible effect - right? 1am? Good God, what a video.
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31k vehicles a DAY went over that bridge. Can't run hazmat into tunnels. Gonna be wild re-routing that traffic.
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Before anybody reads too much into this, especially without all the facts, the ship was under the control of not one but TWO port of Baltimore pilots. There are reports of the ship going "black" minutes before the collision. What that is an indicator of is the ship probably had a catastrophic/cascading power failure and not only lost way, but steerage as well and in that case, they would not even had the means to even drop anchor. If the ship lost way, even at four of five knots, it would take a lot of time to stop. The channel there is but 150yrds wide, so lost of steerage and power, what happened is very much a probability.
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The film shows the ship going dark,( power loss), then the lights come on and heavy black smoke from the stack before ship hits the bridge. Like like a terrible accident to me.
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Drunk ship captain more like it. That ship was under the control of a US pilot.
Bridges are a huge piece of our high value national infrastructure. Port cities can be crippled if they are taken out. I sure hope drunk, and not intentional. I know almost nothing about shipping or the channels there. But looking at the video, and a map, there is a good chance Baltimore harbor isn’t gonna be moving any freight for awhile. My first concern was terrorists. There are isolated railroad tunnels within a short distance of our family farm. Pap used to tell of troops guarding those tunnels during WWII. The Horseshoe Curve was also guarded. It would be quite easy to seriously hurt us, with high reward, low risk attacks to key infrastructure. American pilot? WTF does that mean? Does he have roots here before it was the USA? 100 years? 50? Or is he a Farsi speaker working a visa? Just got a notification the ship lost power. The concern for what could happen remains
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Clearly, the only thing to do is send another $60 billion to Ukraine.
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ATTENTION
We can't spend our $$$$$ on bridge upkeep! Those $$$$$ must go to Ukraine!!
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