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No Schit Sherlock. I do live inside the borders of NC.

I offer you an opportunity to easily prove all your claims about this phantom .375 and all you can do is duck and dive thus confirming once and for all that your are just a cowardly, spineless, lying son of a shoat.

VA, and hillbilly -
Neither of you know anyone at FN, nor do you have any access to the factory.

VA, it was YOU who claimed to have talked to "someone at Winchester" about my rifle(s). See your own posts. You made it up. Don't try to pass it off to Williams.

FN may be small compared to some of my clients, but they all are important to me, especially those arming our military.

Post the pics and proof of your rifle (that doesn't exist), you worthless scum sucking piece of rotten dog schit, or GTFO.

Why are you so upset about my rifles?
You have challenged me on others, I posted the pictures, and you slinked off without apologizing.

You don't know anyone at Winchester or FN.
You don't know much about Model 70 Safari and African models.

If you can't discuss mountain rifle triggers, you are in the wrong thread. Quit stinking it up. This is my last post humoring you here.

Post the never-made Winchester M70 .375H&H rollstamped "Made in Columbia, SC", or STFU and GTFO.

That pile of "scrap" is a week's worth of production for FN's model 70 line that is over three times your yearly gross salary as Fry Engineer at BK, so try to keep up and pay attention.



Fortunately, since my dealing with Winchester/FN have spanned over 17 years, I'm not forced to guess about what happened or is happening at any of their facilities. My first contact with the new FN program on these rifles dated back to November of 2006. My first visit to their plant was in April of 2007...Long before you or the rest of the general public had any idea as to their intentions of a model 70 reintroduction.

I know every player in that business from past to present....From purchasing, accounting, as well as engineering.


The fact remains that you lied and are still lying about the existence of a Super Grade, Safari Express, or Super Express rifle that has a roll stamp of Columbia, SC on the barrel in 375 H&H, purchased from some make-believe retail outlet within the FN Facility that no shmuck such as yourself would be allowed in, which is why your only move last time was to post pictures that were someone else's, claiming they were yours.

The offer still stands LIAR24.........

FREE SUPER EXPRESS MODEL 70 IN 416 REM. MAG FOR THE FIRST PERSON, INCLUDING LIAR WHO CAN PROVIDE PROOF OF THIS SOUTH CAROLINA ROLLSTAMPED 375 BARREL.


Ya got nothing to loose and the offer has been on the table for nearly a year and you can't produce. I'll even throw in a "scrap" extractor, a "scrap" trigger guard, "scrap" barrel band swivel base, "scrap" stock swivel base, and an unfinished Safari Express stock straight out of Italy, so you can finish it just the way you like.

Now, get on that photoshop jushitzu and get something worked out......

In my manufacturing plants, we neatly stack production work in trays. Only scrap is piled up. Different worlds.

April 2007? That is fairly recent.
I actually posted that the Model 70 would resume production at FN in SC, as early as the fall of 2006. FN was already building the Model 70 as their tactical rifle. I shot one of them in Columbia in 2006.

I have been in the FN facility a few times since it was first built. FN invited me for an interview in 1976, and I went, after having designed a stock for HK. I was already headed to graduate school.

You haven't posted a photo of your .416 Model 70, but I don't want one, anyway. I'm all set for big rifles.

If you ever run into anyone from Winchester who knows the Model 70 Safari variations, please pass along their name. Or give it to VAnimrod, so he can pretend he talked to them.

You've now been added to the pathological liar list.................

Who the hell do you think you're kidding? Do you think that I wouldn't know when that facility was built?

With any luck, your mom will take away your internet time again and send you back to the basement.


Your compounding of one lie after the next is astounding, but it is a train wreck that's hard not to watch.

Since you say you hadn't been in FN until April 2007, I have almost a 30 year jump on you. Maybe you can ask someone when the facility was finished and opened. What were you doing then, riding a Big Wheel?

Sitka Deer,

That you are flat WRONG about some vignetting serving no useful purpose as far as parallax reduction at longer ranges is, simply, the truth. I can prove it, and you know it, so you continue to weasel.

That you are avoiding directly answering the simple question of whether you advocate chasing the image forward as the eye relief shortens, OR accepting a serious compromise in low-power eye box, is likewise weasely. And since you are flat WRONG to assert that there's any third alternative, and I can prove it (Leupold 2.5x8 is the test scope), and you KNOW it, you continue to weasel.

All of which I could care less about; you have every right to be wrong, and certainly every right to mount a scope on your rifles as you see fit. What I do care about is your continual public shots at me, and I will continue to point out that you are flat WRONG, and acting like a chickenshit about it, as long as you continue to drag my name into discussions like this that don't involve me- which you did, once again, here.

Or, Art, we could take this to the Optics Forum and politely debate it. In fact, I'll sweeten the deal. Meet me there, and we'll sort it out, and if you can show I'm wrong, I'll leave the Campfire for a month. If I can prove I'm right (which I can, and will, and you know it which is why you'll weasel out of this), you will promise to quit your [bleep] whiney little public attacks on me.

What do you say? Got any hair down there?

-jeff

Your flagrant attempt at trying to bestow any knowledge about the FN facility upon the masses falls as short as your roll stamp that we all know doesn't exist.

The dates you've now referenced twice are proof enough, though I had plenty a year ago of how utterly full of BS you are.

I doubt a single member of this forum, given the opportunity to own a Classic Winchester would turn down the bet, had the aforementioned item been within their grasp......Likewise, I wouldn't offer up a rifle such as that, without knowing damn well that there's zero chance you could produce the proof.

No matter how much wishy-washy excuses or name dropping, geographical nuances, or bad compasses that you throw into this topic, you'll still slither away as a Liar in the highest order.

While we've all known that you did more than stretch the truth, the subject matter at hand wasn't nearly as important as the fact that some poor unsuspecting member of this forum might actually believe your utter nonsense on a more serious matter, like reloading data. Worse yet, some poor sap might actually send you money for an item you claim to have, only to be ripped off, though you'll deny the charge, claiming the postal service, ups, or the Budweiser horse carrier service was to blame.

If a guy will lie about something so trivial, then adamantly back up the lie with more lies, he'll likely do most anything for anything, to anyone. Your character is more than flawed on a grandiose scale. Treatment is probably an exercise in futility, though a skinny dip in the fry basket at work could do wonders.

You and Jeff should share trade secrets on all things firearms. Perhaps you could shed some light on his peep scope design and manufacture and engineer a 5" cheek weld so other normal folks could enjoy the fruits of your labor.
Perhaps just flip the scope 180 and save all the fuss, but I'm no engineer and I'd best leave it to you fellers to decipher was path of entrepreneurial ship to make your fortune on.

You boys are on a goldmine.

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Here ya go, Artsy! Damn this place!

I used to think ol' Lee was an overeducated, yet intelligent man that was badly misunderstood.

My thinking has swapped ends - that'd be a 180* change.

Dear Mr. Lee24,

This is the barrel stamp on my Model 70 375 HH classic made in New Haven.

Now you can show me yours.

Sincerely,
Thomas

You were just a state stamp away from a new rifle right there..............

No flipping way you have 100lbs of bass there in addition to the 13.2 pounder. (and I am doubting that weight as well) And don't give us any crap about you only kept this bunch - because I see some minnows there and you wouldn't toss the larger to keep the smaller.

that bass might go 6-7 lbs tops the others are minnows

Maybe he meant 13.2 lbs combined?

Here's a 47 pound redfish I caught near Ketchikan, AK (El Ni�o year)