Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles There it is, a 115-grain from the .257 Bob at 3000+ fps

Any one of of those can be taken with a 257 roberts not the ideal choice for elephants obviously, but niether is the swede.

Next lets argue which is better the 270 win or the 280 rem.

Dober,
I think the UL,S are only offered in wood blue now.
Unless I just cant find them on there site anymore.

Hawk1,

I have used RL-22 in the .257 and it is indeed a very good powder, especially with heavier bullets. It's also very good in the Swede....

I suspect the reason the .257 wasn't used on any elephants was that it came out too late (1934), after the boys with 6.5x55's had shot all the big bulls.

I had an art teacher in high school that his sole rifle was a "Bob" he used it for everything and always had good reports about it.

......just thought I would enter my vast knowledge of the .257 Roberts on this here thread.

JB, I get an 'easy' 2900fps shooting 115's out of my 22" Kimber. 44 grains of H4350 does the trick, I'm at 9x firings in one lot of brass with no issues.

It also helps to have a profusion of military ammunition with 160 grain "full patch" ammo as well. The great elephant kills could have easily been with 7mms or 8mms; even the 30-03.


This is kind of the same argument of the 35 Whelen versus the 9.3 X 62. Really more ado about twists, bullets, times and places, including the places stuff is hit.

The 270 v. 280 arguments are far more reasonable

You know, come to think of it I've never read of anybody killing an elephant with a 6.5x55. The 6.5x54 Mannlicher, yes, but not the 6.5x55....

Karamojo Bell used the 6.5x54 until he realized the 160-grain full-patch military bullets weren't all that reliable. Then he switched to the 7x57, and we all know how that went. But few realize he eventually went to a .318 WR when big bulls got scarcer and spookier, because the 7mm bullets didn't penetrate at bad angles as well as a 250-grain .318.

I think we've drifted a bit here. The Swede and the Bob are about equal. Save your breath, you'll need it when you're 95.

Pushing a 115 gr pill out of my Bob at about 3000fps only confirms that I don't "need" a Swede, and the next time I go try and shoot some elephants, remind me to take something a touch more game appropriate!!!

I've killed 17 elephants with my 6.5x54.

Didn't the 333 have some mystique about it too?

Some guy named Elmer thought highly of it, and it wasn't used in NA a whole lot...

I've come to the conclusion this "killing power" thing is based solely on whether or not a cartridge was used in pre-war Africa, or at minimum a bore size. (grins)

A double tap side by side gives you a slightly bigger hole than a 50 cal.

The elephants I can believe.

17 grizzlies and I know you're fulla chit....you'd have used a Roberts on them.

Don't even show a pic of that pig you nailed with a 250.

.007 is the difference between dead and running free.

15 of the 17 were shot going away

Cheerio, or back of the head?

Cheerio of course. I'd not try that with a Roberts...

We got these velocities with the cartridge back in the 1980's,and mostly used IMR4831 back then as I recall.We never had a problem.....

Can someone tell me where I can buy some 140-160gr .257 caliber bullets? I need to get a 'Bob and see what it will do with those bullet weights.

those should only be used on Elephant exhaust pipe shots, they "way over penetrate" on everything else.

What does and extra 20-40 grains do for you slick? Just realized, another New Yorker, that explains it.