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Originally Posted by logcutter
His experience will be missed by those with way more experience than those against him,hunting Elk in Idaho and Montana..

Jayco



Cool.. so you'll take the whining over to the elk forum? No need to reply, I know you said you were finished with this thread about 10 posts ago and I'd hate for anybody to think that you're less than truthful, or one that exaggerates unnecessarily.

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Are you an Aquarius... no wonder you are so well respected....

Happy 80'th early, Sir.


My thought is, if I post enough, one day I will make an intelligent comment, not by skill, but by the odds.


I have to get some bedtime, I have to go blow up some expensive Gov't targets tomorrow, it's supposed to rain here tomorrow afternoon, and it's much colder than home....

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Once again..No experience and from back east..Not Montana or Idaho just pay for view hunts....

Try growing up in the hills just doing it....Not paying for it..

Absurd..Maybe, but why is just you little guys posting against Ray rather than the real Elk hunters?????????

The only real name that chimed in..Again......Was Phil Shoemaker in Rays defenses,yet you ignore Phil and his post.Know one else with his stature has said a bad word about Ray.

Who are you?

Geez.....................

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Me, I'm not an elk hunter at all and I don't have the hots for any specific elk hunters. But the gunwriters forum is one I like to read for content, not for people carrtying a torch or crying over their beers about a personal friend who screwed himself.


Why did you think this was a question for gunwriters? Why not the elk forum, or the Hunter's Campfire?

Just let it go.

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I will if the rest of you will especially those that don't no a damned thing about Elk hunting.

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Originally Posted by logcutter
Theirs alot of experienced Elk hunters on this forum and I have not seen "ONE" chime in on this post...Just the little guys.. �

Now I know � I'm a deaf-mute cretin � don't "no" a damn thing about hunting elk.

Probably because there were few real hills and no elk where I grew-up �

� exacerbated by the deleterious effects of education �

Oh, woe! What'll I ever be worth?


"Good enough" isn't.

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Originally Posted by logcutter
Theirs alot of experienced Elk hunters on this forum and I have not seen "ONE" chime in on this post...Just the little guys..

Phil Shoemaker even came to Ray's defense on deaf ears saying he really does have the knowledge and experience,yet the yuppies keep chiming in.

Have one of the 100 big time Elk hunters here chime in saying ray is full of it.......They know better as I do....

His experience will be missed by those with way more experience than those against him,hunting Elk in Idaho and Montana..

Jayco



Wow

I have a headache trying to understand that.....

Who is against Ray? I see people who said he made some very unbeleivable statements, unfortunately promoted a possible illegal hunt in Africa, and read his replies on the other website, and his replies did not leave me with the impression this guy admits any fault, even when backed against a corner with apparent proof. That skillset is not enviable, even though you seem to dismiss it.


So may I suggest you actually go see your idol, since I believe you said earlier he doesn't live that far from you. I think you did say you never met the man.

I suspect he would love to talk to you mano y mano, being his best ally here.



You are really hung up on " people with a name" and "old hunters" and trying to prove Ray is "somebody to respect". I judge a man by his words, and fail to ask his age unless his replies obviously are not correct or sensible.

I am sorry you lost your only information person for Elk hunting. I suspect, though, if you open your mind you will, as I said before, be amazed at the wealth of knowledge here... and I am not part of that skillset.

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Originally Posted by logcutter
Once again..No experience and from back east..Not Montana or Idaho just pay for view hunts....

Try growing up in the hills just doing it....Not paying for it..

Absurd..Maybe, but why is just you little guys posting against Ray rather than the real Elk hunters?????????

The only real name that chimed in..Again......Was Phil Shoemaker in Rays defenses,yet you ignore Phil and his post.Know one else with his stature has said a bad word about Ray.

Who are you?

Geez.....................



LOL

I take back the nice tone I had


May I suggest you need to go somewhere else to fill your needs, especially since you don't seem to like the posters here. How did you get so many posts with such an attitude? Have a cold one or two, and relax.


Ray who? This seems to be all about you and your need for a replacement mentor, since you think we ran him off ( he left on his own) and he apparently is the only person to fill your needs.

Again, contact RAY, I am sure he will open his home to you......


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as for posters that have alot of elk hunting experience.....thinking Dober, Greenhorn and scenarshooter have plenty......pretty sure there are plenty of others aswell.....


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At the risk of repeating myself..........

Originally Posted by logcutter
I have never met Ray nor ever had PM's or e-mails with the man,let alone phone calls or anything else....

Jayco


Let me get this straight........you claim we have missed out because Ray "has so much to offer in his actual hunting experience"........then you tell us you " have never met Ray nor ever had PM's or e-mails with the man,let alone phone calls or anything else...."

Excuse me, but how would you know all about Ray's hunting experience?? I guess you believe everything you read??

Maybe you haven't read all the BS many of us have seen Ray post??

Ray is a liar, plain and simple.......you have been given MANY examples of the lies he has told yet you continue to tell us how much we are missing because he took his toys and went home.........maybe you like liars.......most of us don't.

I seem to remember you posting:

Originally Posted by logcutter

This thread has run it's course and I am not going to say anymore..If you want to wrestle with me on the net...
Jayco



Thought you were through!



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Jayco,

It should be abundantly obvious by now that you're not going to change anyone's opinion, nor anyone yours.

Probably best to let sleeping dogs lay as nothing worthwhile and constructive has nor will come from this thread.... aside from scantily clad blondes. grin

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I used to have a thankfully very distant cousin who hadn't invented weird but was gold-medal world-class in extrapolating it.

He loved to go to funerals, quite irrespective of whether he'd ever known the late guest of honor �

� just loved to sob over dead folks.


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Originally Posted by FOsteology
Jayco,

It should be abundantly obvious by now that you're not going to change anyone's opinion, nor anyone yours.

Probably best to let sleeping dogs lay as nothing worthwhile and constructive has nor will come from this thread.... aside from scantily clad blondes. grin


Here I am agreeing with FO,and I do........

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Your a Wiley old critter.Last time you addressed me a year or so back,I was an Idaho poaching logger...

A golden tongue doesn't solve everything..But as you said..I have forgot it all but see..............Things...

Best of luck to you sir..

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There is no way I can match you wit at writing and getting my thoughts on the keyboard as you can..

So e-mail me at

jaycocreek@levergunlovers.com

I will send my phone number and we can talk..Man to Man....

Rick bin did....

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The telephone is an instrument of frustration and torture for me, my friend. Especially long-distance.

Otherwise, I'd love to chat with you � by the hour, face-to-face across the fire, watching the sun go down, listening to the loons.


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My dime if your interested..

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Thank you for posting Porch Girl. You saved me from saying something I might regret later.

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That is my pleasure Brian....she is a good bullsh!t stopper and really grabs the attention, albeit briefly.

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