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This is just me..but if I had a Roberts I was liking I'd use a 115 Nozler in it b4 I bought a 7/08 and ran a 120 in it, Course me being kind of odd I see having the .270 in the same manner. Point being, if I had one already I wouldn't be for buying a 7/08 and running a 140 in it..grin

Guess I'm just trying to say they already have a Roberts and a .270 so why purchase a 7/08?

Just my way I guess.

Dober

C Roy:

If you need a little more convincing that the 270 is all she will ever need for elk or African plains game, read this from Ross Seyfried:

"The most successful African Safari I ever guided was shot with a .270 Winchester loaded with 150 grain Nosler Partition bullets. The rifle was ancient and worn, a pre-war Model 70. The �driver� was past 70 years old and this was his only rifle; a rifle that he has used for many decades in most of the hunting grounds of the world. He shot two extremely tough animals, a zebra and a wildebeest, first. Each fell to a single shot, as did a huge lion. He broke a sitatunga�s neck (that was the only target) offhand, in the wind, at 300 yards. An elk-sized kudu bull tumbled when the bullet hit the point of his shoulders. There was no real magic; just a great rifle, fine bullet and unimaginable skill on the part of the rifleman."

"Over the last dozen years my son and I have guided for more than 100 elk here at Elk Song. They have been taken with a remarkable spectrum of rifles ranging from 4-bore to 6.5 mm, with a good selection of .577s, .416s, .375s, 338s and .300s in the middle. Many of them have been taken with .270s and I can tell you that no cartridge puts an elk on the ground more quickly than the .270 Winchester loaded with the magnificent (and now non-existent) 140 grain Winchester Failsafe bullet. (Some of the Barnes X designs are producing similar results.) The reason for the grand success is twofold, and returns us to the beginning: first the hunters hit very precisely with the gentle rifle and second, the bullet performance is off the scale."

You can see the entire article at www.gunsamerica.com/blog/ross-seyfried-busting-the-magnum-myth/

Also those suggesting a 22 or some of some sort share my thoughts.

Get a 223 and load it to the same trajectory as the 257 & 270 and then try to wear the barrel out. This will do a lot more to insure confidence on a longer shot than some hard kicking medium bore would.

I'm a .270 junkie and always have been owning two and the one time I strayed from the 130 Nosler it was to use the brand new at that time,140 grain Fail Safe.The absolute worst bullet I have ever used in the .270..Penciling through game without opening up evidently by the holes I saw and no recovered bullet.

The first opening morning a fine bull hit solidly behind the shoulder area with little showing of being hit and he was gone with the rest.I new I hit him and gave him sometime then went after him with little blood to see.Found him later quite aways from where I hit him down hill as usual with a very small entry and same sized exit.

The second the very next day was a nice 4X4 Whitetail and I wanted this baby.Took my time at 200 yards and saw hair fly.I new bu the time I got around and over to him,I had my Deer..NOT..Same thing...Small hole in and small hole out with little apparent expansion and another blood hound search and rescue operation to find it also at the bottom of the steep canyon... .

I have the other 15 Winchester loaded 140 grain Fail Safes somewhere around here I will never shoot again.That batch sucked big time.I remember reading in Petersons Hunting Boddington had the same problem in Africa with the "new" Fail Safe...

Noslers or Trophy Bonded for me..Period.

Jayco