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Sveas were a pain to prime until I discovered lighter fluid. I just squirt it on the burner until it runs down the stem to fill the primer bowl, then throw in a match. Works great. Nice thing about them is that you can find fuel anywhere, which I can't say about the various canisters. It's not as handy, true, but you can usually find something flammable to put in the tank.
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Sveas were a pain to prime until I discovered lighter fluid. I just squirt it on the burner until it runs down the stem to fill the primer bowl, then throw in a match. Works great. Nice thing about them is that you can find fuel anywhere, which I can't say about the various canisters. It's not as handy, true, but you can usually find something flammable to put in the tank. I carry a little plastic eyedropper. Just fill the little resevoir from the tank, let it burn and light. Below zero, you have to do it twice sometimes.
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All this talk about SVEA 123 and not a mention of a SVEA's Huckleberry, the Sigg Cookset. This was the ultimate backcountry stove/pots integrated set back in the 70's. Not too bad today if your stove is still going strong. I've got a Sigg bottle top for a Sigg/Msr fuel bottle that has a pour spout, fill up the tank and put a little in the primer cup and boiling water in 5!
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Jetboil rocks. I'd like to see the size of the new Zip Jetboil... I could never get over the weight and bulk of the original but the Sol Ti is short (like the zip) and light. I think its suppose to be like 8.5oz. I was talking with Taylor about these stoves before Jetboil realeased them for sale. He had a brochure with all the specifics on it and after reading and comparing weights of the PCS and Sol Ti the total weight difference was only about an ounce difference. The listed weight of the Sol Ti is 8.5 oz but that doesn't include the pot support, fuel stabilizer or the pot. The PCS all up, weighs in at 15 oz. I bet if you weighed the Sol Ti along with the rest of the kit it will be close to the PCS in actual weight. I was thinking the Sol Ti would be significantly lighter than the PCS but it wasn't and the price difference between the 2 was significant.
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Okay, so what I'm gathering is that the SVEA 123 may not be the '06 of the stove world. It's more like the SMLE .303British.
I can dig that...
If anyone happens to trip over one, or has one they don't want/need, let me know.
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That's ok, I'll ass shoot a dink.
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Not exactly. I can get the new ones. Just looking for an old one, if someone has one out there...
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OK, if I see one I will let you know.
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Cool. Thanks. I ain't holding my breath on one popping up, though...
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There are a few on flea bay, but for what the prices are at, I'd likely look at a new msr.
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Jetboil rocks. I'd like to see the size of the new Zip Jetboil... I could never get over the weight and bulk of the original but the Sol Ti is short (like the zip) and light. I think its suppose to be like 8.5oz. I was talking with Taylor about these stoves before Jetboil realeased them for sale. He had a brochure with all the specifics on it and after reading and comparing weights of the PCS and Sol Ti the total weight difference was only about an ounce difference. The listed weight of the Sol Ti is 8.5 oz but that doesn't include the pot support, fuel stabilizer or the pot. The PCS all up, weighs in at 15 oz. I bet if you weighed the Sol Ti along with the rest of the kit it will be close to the PCS in actual weight. I was thinking the Sol Ti would be significantly lighter than the PCS but it wasn't and the price difference between the 2 was significant. The 8.5oz does not include the pot support, fuel stabilizer and measuring cup. It includes the pot I'm not going to be using anything but the pot, stove and lid. So that should put me around 8.5oz in the pack. Maybe a little lighter after I get done with the razor blade The weight is great but the regulated burner is the upgrade I feel is most important to me. So all together I felt it was a very worthy upgrade.
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So it comes with a measuring cup and a pot? My Jetboil measuring cup is the pot.
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Yea there is a plastic measuring cup. Why? beats the heck out of me Check out this video it gives a pretty good description of it. I will post some pic's of mine when I get it as well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnd8hDa16cg
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I can tell you the empty original jetboil up w/o cozy, lid, bottom cut is 6 oz. I cut mine down 1.75" to be just big enough to house a canister, my SOTO stove, and pot support and w/o cozy,lid, bottom cup its 4.4 oz and still easily holds 500 ML of water as I don't need the rest of the volume of the pot or the little be of weight because the SOTO stove I use is MUCH smaller and lighter. The bottom cup is 1 oz even and the top lid is 1.3 oz. My setup with everyone but the bottom cup (like to bring a TI mug along instead (more versatile) comes to 15.6 oz including a 7 oz fuel canister. The standard jetboil cup with everything included and the standard jetboil stove except for the bottom cup is 20.6 oz. Just some numbers you look over. The for me it was nice to drop 25% of the weight off my cooking setup, get faster cook times and have it take up less volume in my pack. Those shawty TI jetboils ought to do similar things but w/o the effort of having to cut your original down and put another bevel on it.
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That look real good Al. Curious how you rolled the lip?
The sol Ti with a canister should come in pretty close to that weight. That is without all the extras they include.
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Not sure how exactly the bevel was achieved. I told the guy I work with how short to cut it and if he could put a bevel in it that would make the lid fit snug once again. Also that I wanted 3 notches in the bottom cut 120 degrees apart to fit the stove in the bottom. He went down to the machine shop after hours and put it on the lathe and came back a little be later with the finished product.
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Here's a read on the history of the Svea123. It's older than most of us. SVEA123
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Okay, so what I'm gathering is that the SVEA 123 may not be the '06 of the stove world. It's more like the SMLE .303British.
I can dig that...
If anyone happens to trip over one, or has one they don't want/need, let me know. VAnimrod: I have a beauty SVEA 123 that I haven't used in maybe twenty or thirty years. But I wouldn't part with it. It's just too much like a work of art. KC
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Sveas were a pain to prime until I discovered lighter fluid. I just squirt it on the burner until it runs down the stem to fill the primer bowl, then throw in a match. Works great. Nice thing about them is that you can find fuel anywhere, which I can't say about the various canisters. It's not as handy, true, but you can usually find something flammable to put in the tank. So.... Concerning finding "something flammable" ; can you burn any kind of gas in the SVEA?? I thought it had to be white gas. I have a SVEA that I bought a few years ago ( the kind with the jet cleaner that you manually turn to clean) at a REI "scratch and dent" sale for a song. I thought it was a great little stove and have used it a few times on the pickup tailgate while truck camping. I always thought it was a little heavy for backpack hunting. But it is a charming elegant little stove that is a work horse and it would be even more convenient if it could burn multiple fuels??
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You can, but it'll make a LOT more soot. Mine is the old one that has to have the jet cleaned manually, and it has to be cleaned more often. There are also additives in gasoline, the combustive by-products of which, might not be too healthy to breathe.
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