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Nothing has changed at Remington the quality is fine. Marlin is owned by Remington and not Cerberus/Freedom Group. Marlin quality fell off beacuse most of the old employees wouldn't move. Whatever the reason it is a shame about Marlin... I do hope they work out the problems. I Hate to hear what�s happened. It is very sad� I would not have expected out of Remington but it seems they have caused it
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There was a time when your best chance of getting a really good shooter was to buy a 700. But that time has passed. Today, most of the rifles on the market are accurate. Sakos, Tikkas, & Vanguards are guaranteed to be so. Savage, the Model 70, A-bolt or X-bolt; they all shoot cloverleafs. Hell, my BLR .358 holds a 1 inch group at 100 with a good load. Jim
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Across the board fooling w/ rifles {mine, and lots of other folks} for 30+ years, I would have to say the SAKO 75/85 series rifles are the most accurate Ive fired straight out of the factory box.
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CZ 550's are right up there, but with any make individual rifles from any decent make may or may not outperform another from another maker on any given day depending on hos good THAT rifles barrel came out on that particualr day. I agree. The CZ 550 American is one heck of a rifle.
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I've owned at least one of every gun mentioned so far. Browning X-Bolt gets my vote followed by Tikka in a close second. My T3's have outshot the 85's I've owned. Browning button rifled barrels are hard to beat IMO.
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And you have owned and fired HOW mnay of these? They generally shoot extremly well.
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most trouble free one i have ever had is the savage i bought this week. factory ammo and cheapo package scope, shot 5 under an inch first 100 yard group i shot.
can't ask for more than that, ever.
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Add me to the Tikka, Savage, Vanguard,and X-bolt supporters. Most of these that I have seen at the range or shot personaly have been very accurate with the right ammo.
Unfortunately the most recent Remingtons have started to fall from their previous accuracy capabilities.
You might be able to find, new/but old stock, of Ruger M77 MKII's in that range. My 7x57 MKII is by far the most accurate factory rifle I have owned.
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You don't want 30-06 ... it is an inherently inaccurate cartridge .... stay away, if you want an accurate rifle!!
Interesting. I am an inherently inaccurate shooter.....no wonder I get along so well with the '06. We compliment each other!
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Tikka, no contest.......take that Swampman.
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My Browning BBR 30-06 was very accurate out of the box, in 1986. It still is, so its getting a new McM stock.
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So it doesnt count if my Model 70 has an H-S precision stock on it? Ill still say Winchester after the kind of groups Ive been getting as of late.
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The new FN winchesters sure shoot...
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I just got finished tweeking a new Rem 700 LSS in 30/06. After bedding, freefloat, trigger adjust, and a new 4x16, I worked up a load in short order with Nosler 165g BT that put bullets in the same ragged hole 100 yards.
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I've gotta have one of those new featherweights.....
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If you can find a new SC winchester model 70 for under $750.00 you could almost guarantee it to be a shooter. You're asking for the most accurate for under that price, that's a different story. I hate to admit it but the savage bolt guns are extremely accurate and can be had for quite a bit less than that price. Every savage I've ever shot has been extremely accurate and that even goes for the cheap azz edge and stevens 200. You guys know I'm not a savage guy, but I have to give credit where it is due. Want examples, well lets just say last saturday I was shooting against some local guys and 2 of them using savage heavy barrel tactical/varmiters handed my ass to me. I shot 2 scores of 100-7x but it wasn't good enough. Actually one guy was using a stevens 200 and was shooting a 5/8" 10 shot group . Put all those in the X-ring and you basically have one big hole, that's savage for you......
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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