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My Bible tells me that "All scripture is given by the inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness." And how this works in my life, when I get myself out of the way and place my reliance on God and His Word, confirms the absolute Truth of that passage, which by the way is 2nd Timothy 3:16.
As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord. We must have the same Bible, Brother Rick. A hearty AMEN! to what you said. Period. What need have we of more?
"Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life." (Prov 4:23)
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I have a copy of the same Bible too I guess... 
Will Munny: It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have.
The Schofield Kid: Yeah, well, I guess they had it coming.
Will Munny: We all got it coming, kid.
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The way that this is often expressed is by saying that the Church of England is both 'catholic and reformed.'"
Anglican Priest for 25 years (married) just joined our Catholic Just and was ordained a Priest. He undertook more seminary studies in order to do so. Its getting more common as the reformed, and Catholic sides split up. BMT
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I have always dated the beginning of the Protestant Revolution with the publication of Martin Luther's 95 (or 99) theses at the University of Wittenberg in 1518.
Henry the VIII established the Church of England with his Act of Supremacy in 1534. So...I do not see the "predate" idea as correct, unless there is a date later than Luther's challenge to doctrine. You are exactly correct Pete. There was a Church of England but as a geographical extension of the Roman Catholic Church. The Church of England deferred to the Pope until King Henry VIII broke from the auspices of the RCC so he could divorce his queen and marry the sister of his mistress. The Castle Church in Wittenberg, where Luther posted his 95, was the chapel of the University at the time. I have never heard it said it was affiliated in any way with the Church of England, but even if it had been , it would have been Roman Catholic in doctrine, not Protestant. About belief and lack of.....one cannot disprove the existence of God. Cannot. True. But....one cannot prove it either. I may not be able to prove it to you, but God can. That He hasn't yet, may be in His timing or in your focus. I fully believe that God does things everyday to get our attention and show us He is in our lives. If we chose to see those things as God, give Him thanks, and look for more, we will find them. All good things come from God so when any good thing happens, take a few seconds and say "thanks". That births a tiny faith from which a dialogue can start along with an amazing journey. Try it sometime. You might be surprised at the outcome.
We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?
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The way that this is often expressed is by saying that the Church of England is both 'catholic and reformed.'"
Anglican Priest for 25 years (married) just joined our Catholic Just and was ordained a Priest. He undertook more seminary studies in order to do so. Its getting more common as the reformed, and Catholic sides split up. BMT A married Catholic priest? Interesting, very interesting,BMT!
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Ricky: That was a pleasant response to a skeptic. I fully believe that God does things everyday to get our attention and show us He is in our lives. If we chose to see those things as God, give Him thanks, and look for more, we will find them. All good things come from Yes...I quite agree. The operant words there are "if we choose to see"......it's that faith thing again. If a person has the faith, then the choice to see ourselves and the world about us as extensions of the mind and work of a deity is easy; it makes sense. As I said before - it doesn't for me. From my perspective, that's not bad; it is what it is. I live a happy, moral life, trying to make the most of what is about me and give value to each moment that I have. I cannot say that I feel like I am missing anything....though many believers will, no doubt, disagree. I try to remain open to new ideas. Pete
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Ideas are far more powerful than guns, We dont let our people have guns. Why should we let them have ideas. "Joseph Stalin"
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My Bible tells me that "All scripture is given by the inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness." And how this works in my life, when I get myself out of the way and place my reliance on God and His Word, confirms the absolute Truth of that passage, which by the way is 2nd Timothy 3:16.
As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord. Although, when Paul wrote that, he must have been referring to the Old Testament as Scripture, right? Or maybe only the Torah? Because 2Timothy wasn't Scripture in 67 AD, it was a letter to Timothy. In 67 AD, Scripture would have been the Torah, the Pentateuch, right? Sycamore
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My Bible tells me that "All scripture is given by the inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness." And how this works in my life, when I get myself out of the way and place my reliance on God and His Word, confirms the absolute Truth of that passage, which by the way is 2nd Timothy 3:16.
As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord. Although, when Paul wrote that, he must have been referring to the Old Testament as Scripture, right? Or maybe only the Torah? Because 2Timothy wasn't Scripture in 67 AD, it was a letter to Timothy. In 67 AD, Scripture would have been the Torah, the Pentateuch, right? Sycamore NOTE: God knows what God is Saying. At the time, Paul may have believed that the "Old Testament" was the "Scripture" of which he wrote. God knew that the Letter itself would be come scripture. And God inspired Paul to write it that way intentionally. BMT
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Priests were allowed to marry till about 550 yrs ago when a pope decided against it.
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If being stupid allows me to believe in Him, I'd wish to be a retard. Eisenhower and G Washington should be good company.
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My Bible tells me that "All scripture is given by the inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness." And how this works in my life, when I get myself out of the way and place my reliance on God and His Word, confirms the absolute Truth of that passage, which by the way is 2nd Timothy 3:16.
As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord. Although, when Paul wrote that, he must have been referring to the Old Testament as Scripture, right? Or maybe only the Torah? Because 2Timothy wasn't Scripture in 67 AD, it was a letter to Timothy. In 67 AD, Scripture would have been the Torah, the Pentateuch, right? Sycamore NOTE: God knows what God is Saying. At the time, Paul may have believed that the "Old Testament" was the "Scripture" of which he wrote. God knew that the Letter itself would be come scripture. And God inspired Paul to write it that way intentionally. BMT I agree with your response, BMT. Further, the experience Paul had on the road to Damascus introduced him first hand to the Glorified Christ, Who was the Word made flesh, and as such was responsible for all sacred writings up to that time. That meeting dramatically changed Saul, the man who was resolved in destroying the Church, to Paul, the one who strengtened it and helped secure it's survival. Apart from that, what happened when Paul was face to face with Jesus is conjecture, but I would believe from the content of his letters, he knew what he was writing was important to fill in the gaps and questions the gospel accounts left open and to further instruct the Church of their role in this new and better covenant.
We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?
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About belief and lack of.....one cannot disprove the existence of God. Cannot. True. But....one cannot prove it either. I may not be able to prove it to you, but God can. That He hasn't yet, may be in His timing or in your focus. I fully believe that God does things everyday to get our attention and show us He is in our lives. If we chose to see those things as God, give Him thanks, and look for more, we will find them. All good things come from God so when any good thing happens, take a few seconds and say "thanks". That births a tiny faith from which a dialogue can start along with an amazing journey. Try it sometime. You might be surprised at the outcome. [/quote] RickyD, that was one, no, it was THE best response I have ever heard in any discussion of proving the existance of God. "But God can." He certainly can. To add a little more about the subject of Carbon dating and other things that have happened throughout the ages, it also says in the Bible that God's ways are not our ways. What we can and do understand just might be a very tiny portion of what is out there. Also someone mentioned earlier about Jesus being cruicified, then arising from the dead. I don't remember the exact quote, but IIRC, the writer implied that this was the first time someone was raised from the dead, and was a bit skeptical about it. Seems I remember reading that Jesus raised a few people from the dead before He Himself was raised up.
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This has been an interesting thread to read. Good responses. Thanks for the input.
Seek Me with your whole being. I desire to be found by you, and I orchestrate the events of your life with that purpose in mind. When things go well and you are blessed, you can feel Me smiling on you. When you encounter rough patches along your life-journey, trust that My Light is still shining upon you. My reasons for allowing these adversities may be shrouded in mystery, but My continual Presence with you is an absolute promise. Seek Me in good times; seek Me in hard times. You will find Me watching over you all the time.
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Holding onto anger is like drinking poison and expecting the other the person to die ......
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