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I don't think that's it's dangerous to flute a barrel that's lighter in contour, I was just stating that his choices might be limited as to what he could get fluted. Guess I should have stated that more clearly. Just my personal preference that if I went with the flutes, I would only have it done by the barrel maker so that any heat treating needed would be done by the maker and final lapping as well so that the barrel meets spec and proper stress relieving as well.
Regarding the stainless and minimum contours, I think that's a bunch of BS as even Crucible states that their 416R is safe to use in temps as low as -40F in sporter contours.
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The Savage I have used to have a 26" heavy barrel. Now it has a thin barrel. It has enough room between the barrel and plastic stock for twigs to get in. Looks it does't have, but it is lighter by a bunch.
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I like the theories in support of a fluted barrel, and like the looks, so my latest build has a fluted #4. When deciding on the interrupted vs straight fluting, the guys at Brux thought the interrupted fluting would offer marginally more stiffness, so that's the way I went. John The bottom one is great.Haven't see too many like that.
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Thanks Hondo. Got some meat on that fore end. Yeah, as discussed in other threads, it may not be the ideal fit for that forend. It is a compromise. I didn't want to go heavier or lighter in barrel, and after discussion with McMillan, decided the #4 Brux would just be too tight a squeeze in the McMillan Hunter, as opposed to the Remington Hunter I finally selected. John
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
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I don't think that's it's dangerous to flute a barrel that's lighter in contour, I was just stating that his choices might be limited as to what he could get fluted. Guess I should have stated that more clearly. Just my personal preference that if I went with the flutes, I would only have it done by the barrel maker so that any heat treating needed would be done by the maker and final lapping as well so that the barrel meets spec and proper stress relieving as well.
Regarding the stainless and minimum contours, I think that's a bunch of BS as even Crucible states that their 416R is safe to use in temps as low as -40F in sporter contours. Didn't take what you said as a claim. Was just pointing out some examples of how much (little) that #4 manufacturer requirement may be worth.
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There's a reality check. I like the way they look and it played a part in my decision to buy a particular rifle that I really, really didn't need. Although I did find ways to justify it in my own mind, once I had it in my hands. It's funny how it's actually easier to fool yourself than anybody else. I might go on an elk hunt some day, right?? I say looking cool is reason enough and if there's any real benefit, it's icing on the cake.
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I see no practical advantage to the fad of fluted barrels. If you like them fine.
I do like to look of an octagon barrel but they are not practical except on a full custom built for looks.
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Spencer,
That is a GREAT looking rig. What are the details?
John
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
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If you have two barrels the same weight and one is fluted it will be stiffer due to the increased / greater surface area.
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Spencer,
That is a GREAT looking rig. What are the details?
John My Blue Rifle: 700 SA 284win 22" PN SS (I don't know the contour) McMillan Rem Classic, 50% Black, 25%white, 25%blue Wyatt's Box Calahan Firing Pin Assymbly, Blue shroud of course All flutes- Blue dura-coat, or cera-kot, or one of them, somebody did the work for me. I don't have a weight on her, but She handles nice.
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I think flutes look cool, but do I think they hold an advantage in cooling over non fluted barrels? not enough to notice really, I have both fluted and non fluted barreled rifles and don't notice any difference in cooling time between them and there's very little weight savings on the rigs I have with #2 barrel contours, should be a noticeable weight savings with a heavier contour barrel, but again I do like the look, which is also a personal thing.............HB
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