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How about this? Do you see in the medical profession a trend, through regulation, to shift your responsibility from the well being of the patient to that of the state?

Ask a CPA about what the IRS is doing. They are basically trying to get the CPA to be an arm of enforcement for them instead of representing his client.

That usurpation of the duties of the various professions is straight out of the 1930s NAZI handbook.

Perhaps Germaine to the topic(s) at hand is Pat Buchannons's recent book, Suicide of a Superpower; I just downloaded it.

I would rather "hold my nose" than continue to "grab my ankles" the rest of my life.

But there's several scenarios which a person can interpolate upon concerning the post crash circumstances.

I have no idea.

My opinion is that an interpolation is a fit between known data points. An extrapolation is a projection into the future based upon present and past data points.

No need to thank me for my utterly pedantic contribution. I already have a good buzz on.

Nobody else does either.

You do realize how often your posts begin like this?

People put too much emphasis on the office of the President.

This government has grown enormous and I doubt that continuity exists even within its many divisions.

It's a multi-headed monster that no one man or even an administration can control.

The monster existed before the Obama administration and it will exist after the Obama administration,...and it'll take a dedicated President in*deed* to bring it under control.

With the exception of Ron Paul, no candidate wants to challenge the monster.

In fact, they're planning on feeding it and making it even more large and powerful.

People put too much emphasis on the office of the President.

This government has grown enormous and I doubt that continuity exists even within its many divisions.

It's a multi-headed monster that no one man or even an administration can control.

The monster existed before the Obama administration and it will exist after the Obama administration,...and it'll take a dedicated President in*deed* to bring it under control.

With the exception of Ron Paul, no candidate wants to challenge the monster.

In fact, they're planning on feeding it and making it even more large and powerful.

My guess is not apocalyptic, but just kind of depressing.

The whole world will be affected, and the US perhaps less so than other countries. That's simply because the US is reasonably capable of sustaining itself.

The communications infrastructure will survive. Actual travel and transportation will be severely curtailed.

Thankfully, government will shrink because there won't be money to pay for it. The military will shrink by 1/3, Social Security retirement and Medicare will happen at 70 rather than 65. People who plan on retiring from civil service jobs will get an unpleasant surprise. Few people will really retire.

Gardening will become a lot more popular. Food costs will take up much more of the typical person's budget. Few homes will be built, because there won't be demand for them. The cost of heating a home will grow substantially. People will learn to wear sweaters and keep the house at 65 degrees in the winter.

Expensive medical treatments will be cost prohibitive. If what's wrong with you can't be fixed with inexpensive medicine and procedures, you're likely to have to live with it or perhaps die of it.

We'll have 10-20 years of stagnation, fewer possessions, and less leisure time. But we won't starve and the country won't collapse. People will learn to be more self-reliant, and the extended family will re-emerge as the dominant form of the family.

Practical skills like carpentry will be in more demand. Basically, if you want something, you'll be able to get it if you build it yourself.

I don't think that multiple firearms will be a particularly valuable asset. The lever action 30-30 was designed as the all-around meat getter, family protector, and livestock protector. Something simple like that, plus maybe a pump shotgun will be useful. But target shooting for recreation will probably be too expensive to enjoy very much.

Within living memory the "standard" home was essentially two rooms: A bedroom for mom and dad, a general living/kitchen area, and a loft for the kids to sleep in. We lived through that. It can be done again if we have to. And it's not all that unpleasant in a lot of ways.

Good post.

I do think that there will be great wailing and gnashing that you aren't accounting for. IMHO there's much to fear from the American religious militant right; they are quite likely to "try something" in my opinion.

Also, remember that things like houses are durable goods. The grotesque, oversize McMansions built recently will still be around in 100+ years with reasonable care. So, I'd predict more people living in those big houses- perhaps extended families, perhaps renters- rather than people living in small houses again.

That may not be a bad thing. 4 people rattling around in a 3500 ft/2 McMansion is NOT a healthy dynamic. My family lives in a small, cozy, intimate house and we are stronger for it, as a family.

Just when some of us here think that perhaps you are coming 'round and "getting it"...

Short question,..

If America doesn't pull out of its spending/debt situation, what's the prognosis?

By that, I mean, what will happen, in your opinion?

I can see the crash coming,...and as far as the monetary situation is concerned, that's easy enough to envision.

But there's several scenarios which a person can interpolate upon concerning the post crash circumstances.

I'll tell ya straight up,...I have no idea.

I may or may not post again in this thread,..we'll see how it goes.

I just want to see what others have to say on the matter.

I'll be sitting here reading.

Other than being a terse one liner, it doesn't address the issue.

But, I still think the militant religious right is the biggest threat to Constitutional governance in the event of a general societal meltdown. They are numerous, excitable, united, armed and have a violent lunatic fringe.