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Accuracy is far from the only thing in a custom rifle. Without accuracy it doesn't much matter but looks also count for something, and sorry but Tikka doesn't have much in the way of looks. Life's to short to shoot an ugly rifle! My sentiment exactly. Hell, I had a TC Encore barrel in 7mm-08 that shot better than I could ask of any rifle, no matter who made it or the cost. But, the rifle was clunky, and could not get my blood going no matter how functional it was. My Kimbers, I have two, each proved to be difficult, but when you find their sweet spot, it don't get much sweeter. I love shooting and carrying them. Id take a 1.5 MOA Rifle with steel and figreglass than 2 aluminum/plastic rifles that shoot 1/2 MOA. Eventually somewhere down the road I could make the 1.5 MOA Shoot better, if I wanted to, even while shooting at moderate distances Ive found little difference in practical gong-ringability between a 1/2 and 1.5 MOA load, unless of course you like drooling over itty bitty groups. But the plastic/aluminum tack driver would still be plastic/aluminum. And tikkas arent a "bargain" in fact up here theyre more expensive than their steel counterparts.
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Accuracy is far from the only thing in a custom rifle. Without accuracy it doesn't much matter but looks also count for something, and sorry but Tikka doesn't have much in the way of looks. Life's to short to shoot an ugly rifle! My sentiment exactly. Hell, I had a TC Encore barrel in 7mm-08 that shot better than I could ask of any rifle, no matter who made it or the cost. But, the rifle was clunky, and could not get my blood going no matter how functional it was. My Kimbers, I have two, each proved to be difficult, but when you find their sweet spot, it don't get much sweeter. I love shooting and carrying them. Id take a 1.5 MOA Rifle with steel and figreglass than 2 aluminum/plastic rifles that shoot 1/2 MOA. Eventually somewhere down the road I could make the 1.5 MOA Shoot better, if I wanted to, even while shooting at moderate distances Ive found little difference in practical gong-ringability between a 1/2 and 1.5 MOA load, unless of course you like drooling over itty bitty groups. But the plastic/aluminum tack driver would still be plastic/aluminum. And tikkas arent a "bargain" in fact up here theyre more expensive than their steel counterparts. Steel and fiberglass? Heck I don't consider any rifle to be custom unless it has a real wood stock on it!
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[even while shooting at moderate distances Ive found little difference in practical gong-ringability between a 1/2 and 1.5 MOA load I would send a 1.5moa gun down the road.
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Not directed directly at you dc223 .... BUT
Blah Blah Blah.....
0.5, 1, 1.5, 2 MOA rifles ... hunt with all of them, kill schitt with all of them. Iffin' I miss its my fault not my 2MOA-rile's fault. Match my rifle to my locatiion and my abilities ... all is goodly and if I don't screw up AND if I hunt hard AND with a little wink from the Good Lord above, I harvest game.
Its not rocket science guys ... no need to bash other folks choice in arms.
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I don't get any rifle to sit in the corner and look at, and marvel how good it looks, including a .5MOA tikka 695 7mag I've had for 13 years now. It's got plastic, and it's extremely tough, and exceedingly, boringly accurate as anything I've ever shot. I trusted it enough to take it deep into Sonora for this once in a lifetime, 213" gross typical muley buck
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I don't get any rifle to sit in the corner and look at, and marvel how good it looks, including a .5MOA tikka 695 7mag I've had for 13 years now. It's got plastic, and it's extremely tough, and exceedingly, boringly accurate as anything I've ever shot. I trusted it enough to take it deep into Sonora for this once in a lifetime, 213" gross typical muley buck helluva buck!!!
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OMG JG! How'd you get em through the door?! (Just guessing that you had him mounted)
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I don't get any rifle to sit in the corner and look at, and marvel how good it looks, including a .5MOA tikka 695 7mag I've had for 13 years now. It's got plastic, and it's extremely tough, and exceedingly, boringly accurate as anything I've ever shot. I trusted it enough to take it deep into Sonora for this once in a lifetime, 213" gross typical muley buck
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I do have a fair amount of mule deer experience, but more than anything else I'm very lucky. I've simply been in the right place at the right time on several 190+ class bucks. I'm sorry to those who see I keep posting pics of that buck. It was taken in Dec of 2006 and I still can't wipe the smile off my face. You see, I'm addicted to mule deer hunting, and have been since I was 11 (40 yrs ago). I'd dreamed of going to Sonora for 20 years before I got to go. Right place, right time is all I can attribute it to. BTW, he's over 35" wide! Thanks for the kind words. I know I suck BTW!
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Hell, I can't shoot in the .2's no matter the rifle I'm using. Envious as well you bastiges! Perhaps you should try even a standard barrel weight Tikka... I have.
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I would send a 1.5moa gun down the road.
Agreed : a 1.5moa is AT LEAST 4.5moa at 300 yds under bench conditions. Hunting is not bench shooting so the odds are increased against you.
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I'm perpetually on the verge of springing for one of these in .243. How low can you get the rings on one? Pretty low if you know a trick or two... M8 6x42 Mines a 30-06 (hold your applause) and shoots 155 Scenars nicely. Seems to be built as well as an off the rack ADL, which I prefer since DBM isn't really my cup of tea. Loading singles is pretty much a none issue. Stock is blah...but so is Remmies. Would I buy another? Well, I didn't buy this one....but for $650 (I think that's about right) you can put an ADL in a Ti take off. I'll give credit to the trigger, it's nice. Ergos? Ain't no one size fits all anything last I checked. Nice balance....
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Standard PlasTikka varmint stock, Duracoat finish. The varmint stock fits very well.
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0.5, 1, 1.5, 2 MOA rifles ... hunt with all of them, kill schitt with all of them. Iffin' I miss its my fault not my 2MOA-rile's fault.
Who says a gun is for hunting? Hunting season here is one week a year, what about the other 51 weeks of shooting? 2MOA? That is a 10" group at 500 with no wind, and off a bench. Now aim that piece of crap over a pack, throw in some wind, and that 2MOA gun is only good for holding up tomatoes.
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I would send a 1.5moa gun down the road.
Agreed : a 1.5moa is AT LEAST 4.5moa at 300 yds under bench conditions. Hunting is not bench shooting so the odds are increased against you. So 1.5" at 100 equates, automatically, to 13.5" at 300. How's that?
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I would send a 1.5moa gun down the road.
Agreed : a 1.5moa is AT LEAST 4.5moa at 300 yds under bench conditions. Hunting is not bench shooting so the odds are increased against you. So 1.5" at 100 equates, automatically, to 13.5" at 300. How's that? I think someone is confused here!
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Maybe jwall was thinking of a Ruger #1? Dohhhhh!
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I've made the exact same mistake so I'm a bit sympathetic.
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0.5, 1, 1.5, 2 MOA rifles ... hunt with all of them, kill schitt with all of them. Iffin' I miss its my fault not my 2MOA-rile's fault.
Who says a gun is for hunting? Hunting season here is one week a year, what about the other 51 weeks of shooting? 2MOA? That is a 10" group at 500 with no wind, and off a bench. Now aim that piece of crap over a pack, throw in some wind, and that 2MOA gun is only good for holding up tomatoes. In your opinion .... but then again, I don't do a whole lotta shooting at 500 yards with a 30-30. Good Luck with that
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