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Here is the most important fact of all. Ron Paul will not be on the ballot in November.



I agree that a dollar is not worth as much, but we each make more of them, so that is a wash. Even I could see the housing crisis coming as soon as the Government starting making banks give loans to people that was not qualified. Ron Paul supporters remind me of a plow mule with blinders on in that all they see is straight ahead, nothing on the side. I am not a big Romney fan but he is our only chance this year of getting rid of Obama and that is my main goal. You main goal seems to be getting him re-elected. miles

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And the Paulites want that. Ron Paul or Obama. Then they try to tell you how smart they are. miles

miles,

There's nothing about Obama that I like. And there's nothing about Romney that I like. I don't think that it would take a tremendous depth of knowledge to craft a cogent argument that Romney is worse than the Kenyan. After all, it was Romneycare that provided Obama with the template for Obamacare. I fear Romney's stance on gun control. And I never did accept killing babies like both candidates have.

We have killed many more times innocent life since "Roe" than Hitler could have dreamed. We're probably closing in on Stalin's record. And let's not forget that Stalin was a New York liberal darling and that he had FDR in his hip pocket. Every time I see anything on D-Day, I think of that bastard FDR who opened a Western Front because Stalin asked him. Stalin wanted dead Americans in order to take Nazi heat off him. I'd of told Stalin to eat [bleep] and die. I could have cared less if Hitler and Stalin killed each other. FRD's deal with a worse devil (Stalin) could be the darkest stain upon our nation's history.

If Romney is the nominee, I will not vote unless I write in Ron Paul's name. I am long done with voting for the less evil candidate.


R

I am still waiting for someone, anyone to show me any cogently reason, any motivation, for Romney to move back to the left when he has to deal with the new 2013 Congress.

His entire record is one of playing the cards he was dealt.
Since the 2010 conservative landslide election, Romney has done nothing to pick a fight with the Tea Party.
That is consistent with his record as a blue state governor and as a CEO with a record of results.

I repeat my earlier statement. It is fairly long because I backed it up with specifics.


�Other than your opinion, you have no facts to back your assertions.�

The record clearly shows that Romney has the ability to change with the tide.
Mitt was the Governor of a blue state and his record reflects that.
Those who know him and say that he works as a consensus builder both as a Governor and a CEO have his record and his results to back them up.

Obviously based on the facts, Romney is driven by the need for results and not by ideological boundaries.

Yes he was a lefty in MA, he was not a stupid man.

As the momentum builds for a second conservative landslide this fall, he has not suddenly caught a case of the stupids.

He is fully aware of what happen in the 2010 election and has moved further to the right than he as ever been before.

As he faces a 2013 Congress that will have also moved even more to the right, he will have no reason to pick a fight, nor buck the odds and try to govern as if he was back in MA.

Romney wants results that will build his legacy, and he wants a second term.

So when that �so called Tea Party Republicans have done $hit since they've been there�� except to send yearly Ryan budgets to the Senate where they died along side Orrin Hatch�s balanced budget amendment...that will all be back in 2013...

When the 2013 Ryan budget and Senator Orrin Hatch 18th balanced budget bill drops on President Romney�s desk�he will sign them in a heartbeat.

He will kill ObamaCare on Day One because�Romney is not a stupid man.

I hope it helps you sleep at night because it don't do crap for me. I have no use for anybody that will not help us get rid of Obama. miles

AMEN!!

I disagree with the premise the no Ron Paul supporters will support Romney.

Maybe not as many as Romney would hope for but there will be some, or at least 1 that I know of for certain.

I sent considerable sums for my budget to the Paul campaign in '08 and still believe he has the most pragmatic view of how we deal with our economy and how we deal with the rest of the world.


but speaking of pragmatic, it's true RP won't be on the ballot in November not enough folks are educated about our fiscal deficits and debt or understand that we approach a day of reckoning for our out of control spending and the mantra "we can't afford not to _______" fill in the blank with whatever the cause is, for liberals social programs, for many conservatives defense spending or legislating morality.


our country is indeed expiring, and just like if one of my kids had cancer I can wish for a dr. with a cure or I can take the best medical help available in hope that they can be saved, to me the choice seems clear.

Or perhaps a better analogy would be that my family is in grave physical danger and though I'd wish a Navy seal would show up to help me protect them, I'm not going to turn the mall cop that has a firearm and a radio away because he's all that's available.

Obama is a miserable failure

Romney may not cure what ails us either, but in my view he's the best alternative of what we'll be offered.

at the beginning of the nomination process he was my least preferred candidate to win the nomination, but he's going to win it despite my preference.


in my view odds are he won't have a fighting chance even if he wins the presidency


but the problem is not politicians, the problem is the populace, uneducated on financial matters, apathetic and roughly half that benefit from some form of gov't largesse.


it doesn't paint a pretty picture, Paul advocates radical surgery, and it's probably our best chance at survival of the American way as we've known it. Most folks are in denial about the cancer that exists within this once great country.

Paul won't be elected, either Romney or Obama will, I'm going to cast my vote for Romney even though he's not my preferred candidate. I have to make hard decisions fairly often and often the decision I make is not the one I'd make in a perfect world, but I make the best one I can concerning the scenario and options presented to me, including who will be POTUS.

I won't cast dispersion upon others on how they cast their vote whether write in or just staying away from the polls.

but it's the real world, and I truly believe we're going to have harder decisions to make down the road besides just this election.

Well said 2legit.

Agreed. Now I feel bad about calling Ron Paul supporters idiots. Sorry 2legit. miles

Battleground states need to play the Red/Blue game & hopefully enough sickened folks can choke back the vomit & do just that.

Solid Red or Solid Blue states, not so much. The only way to change unacceptable behavior is to not encourage it at the ballot box, for now..

Problem with the analogy is that Romney, rather than being a mall cop, is a disguised accomplice of the very person who threatens your family. Politics at that level (banker promoted candidates in both parties being nominated for the presidential election) is akin to the game of good cop/bad cop played on the American electorate. We're supposed to be afraid of the bad cop, and thus do what we can to cooperate with the good cop (like put him in office) so he keeps us safe from the bad cop. Then the good cop becomes the bad cop and it starts all over again. We never get to choose being let loose from the game.

more comedy gold from the fever swamps of Paulieism.

impervious to reality, these are

The paulbots have something in common with the libtards that tried to recall Walker , they are both too STUPID to know when they have lost.


Mike

As are many who right now think that they have "Won". Less of a loss is not quite a win, though it does prolong the game for a while.

"I will not vote unless I write in Ron Paul's name"

Good,.....you're a real hero (in your own mind).

a complete idiot to most here,......you and TRH against the world, what ?

now GFY, little girl.

GTC

Civility doesn't appear to be a hallmark of this thread.
I Like Ron Paul. Glad he made a run. Whenever I needed a good laugh I could turn to his latest pontifications and life was immediately funnier. I miss his goofy stuff these days. His followers just don't have the same humor factor as he. Weird, maybe, but nearly as funny.

Jim

It's about time somebody take over the Republican party! Paul may not be perfect, and nobody is, but for the past 20 years I threw-up in my mouth a little every time I looked at the choices on the ballots, and left the polling place in need of a stiff drink.

Paul compared to Reagan? We can only pray that this country would ever again elect a president like Ronald Reagan, may God bless his immortal soul.

POLITICO
The Nevada GOP is in the process of firmly establishing itself as a circus sideshow.
By CHARLES MAHTESIAN 6/24

I've always thought state Democratic and Republican parties come in four flavors: 1) Functional, with outstanding leadership 2) Functional, with ineffective leadership 3) Basket cases marked by a lack of cash and candidates and 4) Basket cases that function like circus sideshows.

The Nevada GOP is in the process of firmly establishing itself as a #4, and the Las Vegas Sun�s Jon Ralston offers some sharp insights into how the Romney camp and the Republican National Committee are working around the problem with a �Team Nevada� shadow party.

�The GOP is not a shadow of its former self,� he concludes, �the shadow is better than its former self.�

How well this arrangement works out is of serious consequence in November, given Nevada�s position as an important Mountain West swing state.

The shadow arrangement, however, isn�t a long-term solution to a problem that�s confronting not only the Nevada GOP but several other state parties (such as Alaska) as well: the conflict between Ron Paul supporters and the GOP establishment.

A shadow party is a viable patchwork solution in a year when there�s oodles of national cash flying around and a presidential nominee dedicated to winning a state. The real problem comes in the ramp up for 2014, when the nationals have packed up and left town and the hard business of recruiting candidates, organizing a state and raising cash from local donors has to get done