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In test done by Randy Garrett,penetration increases stopped at 1250-1300 fps.

What is apparent from testing is that penetration stops increasing at impact speeds above about 1250-1300 fps. When the impact speeds significantly surpass about 1600-fps, there is a very definite and measurable decrease in penetration depth

Jayco

I used to feel the same way Snake, but I've found that something moving three football fields per sec running into something moving zero football fields per sec. just gets it's stuffing permanently blown outta the bullets way.

I still hunt and shoot the 454C with a 335 gr LBT at 1585 fps, and a silly lookin 500 S&W with it's 440 gr LBT at an easy 1385 fps, but the 45 ACP and especially my old Colt 45 SAA with the 270 Thunderheads @900 really lays a meat and bone displacing pop on critters up close.

Gunner

Here is a pic of a cast wound channel of a live animal at the shot.Clearly this 45 opened up the channel to larger than a half inch. This result was not a accident but the norm. It's a 300gr wfn at a moderate 1150fps.

DD, I'm bettin shot placement is the real issue here.

Gunner

Yup that could be the case. Seeing as how you shoot a .454C you ought to you tube up hog hunting a there is one on there that really is something to see. The guy hits this 700 pound hog with six rounds of .454C little effect so he loads up again and hits the hog with six more before the hog goes down.

Heck, maybe I'll try and find it.

Our good freind here JJ Hack, who has shot something on the order of 900 bears as he was the bear control officer for a large timber company for many years and was ahunting guide in Alaska during times when he was not PH'ing in South Africa and Zimbabwe says that in his experience a plain old vanilla 240gr HP in a 44 MAgnum is much more effective on even big black bears.

Found it!!!!

Check this out gunner500:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cViXU8eXU94

Well that sucked, that dude needs severe practice with a handgun, I put mangy coyotes and feral dogs down with more dignity.

Gunner

That guy needs to be beaten over the head with his Raging Bull.


Travis

That guy needs to be beaten over the head with his Raging Bull.


Travis

That did not seem to be 750lbs

I have never gotten that close to one in daylight... unless they charge.

That said,

Yes "That guy needs to be beaten over the head with his Raging Bull."

Snake

I think recoil has a lot to do with it.

I know that in a rifle the recoil of a 30-06 is all I can handle. In a handgun a .44 mag shooting 240 grain soft points at 1000 to 1200 FPS is all I can handle. I never hunted anything that required more horse power. I figured if that can't do it it doesn't need to die.

My favorite all around handgun is the 1911 in .45 auto. With +p loads it will take a whole assortment of big game animals.