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A wolf in a pit "fighting" out of its element MIGHT get beat by a pitbull due to circumstance. A pitbull on its own in the wild would be ripped to shreds by a wolf. Wouldn't even be close.


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Originally Posted by Rooster7
A wolf in a pit "fighting" out of its element MIGHT get beat by a pitbull due to circumstance. A pitbull on its own in the wild would be ripped to shreds by a wolf. Wouldn't even be close.
Disagree. Pit wins both, if it's one on one, hands down assuming the size disparity isn't greater than fifty pounds.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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A wolf in a pit "fighting" out of its element MIGHT get beat by a pitbull due to circumstance. A pitbull on its own in the wild would be ripped to shreds by a wolf. Wouldn't even be close.
Disagree. Pit wins both, if it's one on one, hands down assuming the size disparity isn't greater than fifty pounds.


White Fang was a movie Hawkeye. A movie.


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Originally Posted by Rooster7
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A wolf in a pit "fighting" out of its element MIGHT get beat by a pitbull due to circumstance. A pitbull on its own in the wild would be ripped to shreds by a wolf. Wouldn't even be close.
Disagree. Pit wins both, if it's one on one, hands down assuming the size disparity isn't greater than fifty pounds.


White Fang was a movie Hawkeye. A movie.
I've given the reasons for what I say. Go back and read my posts.

PS There's no scene in the movie of a Pitbull fighting a wolf in the wild anyway. The fight was in a pit, which you admitted the Pitbull would win. You showed some smarts with that comment.


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Hawk, Wolverine or Pitbull ?


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Originally Posted by okok
Hawk, Wolverine or Pitbull ?
Wolverines are more bad ass than wolves, that's for sure. Would be an interesting match. Assuming a 45 lb fighting-weight game-bred Pitbull in its prime, tested and proven, vs a 45 lb wolverine, my money would still have to go on the Pitbull. The general rule that's come down from tradition when such matches were common was that any wild predator needs to be at least twice a Pitbull's size to be anything like an even match.


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How much does an average Wolverine weigh?


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Originally Posted by okok
How much does an average Wolverine weigh?
A big male up to 45 lbs.


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A decent dog will hold its own against a wolf........ You ask if the wolf will win? sure, damn near 99.9% of the the time. I have have seen some bad ass mutts...... I never, ever want to be on the bite end of either them sumofbitches....... A dog can kill a wolf. A wolf will kill a dog.

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Originally Posted by okok
How much does an average Wolverine weigh?


If wolves are running 180+ in MT/ID, then wolverines are easily 120+ wink


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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Originally Posted by Rooster7
A wolf in a pit "fighting" out of its element MIGHT get beat by a pitbull due to circumstance. A pitbull on its own in the wild would be ripped to shreds by a wolf. Wouldn't even be close.
Disagree. Pit wins both, if it's one on one, hands down assuming the size disparity isn't greater than fifty pounds.


White Fang was a movie Hawkeye. A movie.
I've given the reasons for what I say. Go back and read my posts.

PS There's no scene in the movie of a Pitbull fighting a wolf in the wild anyway. The fight was in a Pitbull, which you admitted the Pitbull would win. You showed some smarts with that comment.


Then you should show some smarts and admit that, in the wild out of its element, the pitbull would lose. As I've said before, it wouldn't even be close. The pit would be wolf poop. smile


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Originally Posted by BrentD
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How much does an average Wolverine weigh?


If wolves are running 180+ in MT/ID, then wolverines are easily 120+ wink


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Originally Posted by fester
A decent dog will hold its own against a wolf........ You ask if the wolf will win? sure, damn near 99.9% of the the time. I have have seen some bad ass mutts...... I never, ever want to be on the bite end of either them sumofbitches....... A dog can kill a wolf. A wolf will kill a dog.


Fester, how many dogs have been killed by wolves in the WY/ID/MT region in the last 25 25 yrs? Pretty good authority puts it at 153 and change.

How many wolves have been killed by dogs in the same area? Zero.

How many wolves have been killed by dogs in the last century in Northeast MN where wolves have always been around. Zero.

There is a pattern here I think.


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If not it's a great book and one I think you'd like. I read it twice from the confines of my 'teepee' while listening to them howl....the light from an REI LED lamp is a fantastic medium and the Alaska outback is a perfect backdrop.

I do it several times each year, although the reading material changes (usually).



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Originally Posted by Rooster7

Then you should show some smarts and admit that, in the wild out of its element, the pitbull would lose. As I've said before, it wouldn't even be close. The pit would be wolf poop. smile
I'll hold to my opinion on that.


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Originally Posted by BrentD
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How much does an average Wolverine weigh?


If wolves are running 180+ in MT/ID, then wolverines are easily 120+ wink


Yeah, and a dog will always get stitched up after meeting a coon.........

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Originally Posted by BrentD
Originally Posted by fester
A decent dog will hold its own against a wolf........ You ask if the wolf will win? sure, damn near 99.9% of the the time. I have have seen some bad ass mutts...... I never, ever want to be on the bite end of either them sumofbitches....... A dog can kill a wolf. A wolf will kill a dog.


Fester, how many dogs have been killed by wolves in the WY/ID/MT region in the last 25 25 yrs? Pretty good authority puts it at 153 and change.

How many wolves have been killed by dogs in the same area? Zero.

How many wolves have been killed by dogs in the last century in Northeast MN where wolves have always been around. Zero.

There is a pattern here I think.
Apples and oranges. "Dogs" include Poodles, Dachshunds, Beagles, etc. Furthermore, wolves run in packs.


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Fester, the vast majority of the 153 mentioned above were working dogs - herd dogs on sheep and hounds that ran lions and maybe bears.


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I'll go to battle with a Mt Lion, now that is a bad ass animal. wink


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Originally Posted by BrentD
Fester, the vast majority of the 153 mentioned above were working dogs - herd dogs on sheep and hounds that ran lions and maybe bears.
Not a one was a fight specialist. I don't consider dogs that tree mountain lions and bears fight specialists. And then there's still the issue of wolves operating as packs. Just like a team of catch dogs would make short work of a lone wolf, a pack (or even a pair) of wolves would make short work of any lone dog.


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