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I don't own any AR's or such (yet) but do own semi auto shotguns. How likely is it that the government could take someone's semi's.
How were semis ("assault rifles") handled under the last ban? Could you transfer ownership?
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I don't own any AR's or such (yet) but do own semi auto shotguns. How likely is it that the government could take someone's semi's.
How were semis ("assault rifles") handled under the last ban? Could you transfer ownership? If it was preban, you could buy and sell it. You just couldn't buy the new ones, or mags for them, which were reserved exclusively for cops, agents, and soldiers, and marked as such at the factory.
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The first time I shot myself in the head...
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I don't think it would even be possible.
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No gov. in there right mind would go about confiscating millions of weapons. That would pretty much trigger the response that many of those gun owners purchased them for in the first place. As protection from a oppresive gov. that has far exceeded whatever tiny amount of power given to it by the Constitution.
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Who said they'll even have luck reinstating the "assault weapons" ban?
One step at a time.
Though if they do, I hope the confiscate every last semi in the USA. Will create a backlash AND show the IGNORANT ones that don't care for ARs, but want to keep their 1100s what the real goal was.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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Wouldn't have to confiscate them. Just declare their possession a felony.
"When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns"
Paul
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Lets see... 350,000,000 fireams divided by 5000 employees of the ATF. Uh my calculator says there aint enough hours in the day to get it done by the end of the century...SOOOOOOOO... Im gonna say NOPE!
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Wouldn't have to confiscate them. Just declare their possession a felony.
"When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns"
Paul I think they would go after ammunition first. Look what they have done to cigarettes because they think people shouldn't smoke.
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I think they would go after ammunition first.
I'm betting that's the route they'll take. With the EPA running around doing whatever it pleases,..they'll try to classify lead and copper as dangerous substances and ban its use.
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Limiting the amount of ammo one purchase's will be the 1st step if anything changes imo.
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the cat is already out of the bag. Pandora's box opened long ago. There are probably better than 100 million firarms in America. No freaking way they can be 'rounded up'.........
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the cat is already out of the bag. Pandora's box opened long ago. There are probably better than 100 million firarms in America. No freaking way they can be 'rounded up'......... Exactly. As I told my wife, confiscating even an unrealisticly high 95% of the guns in existance wouldn't stop the rampages by the crazy and demented. If a $500 gun today would cost $5,000 on the black market then, that's not even a speed bump for a lunatic who plans to not even be alive tomorrow. Those guys aren't exactly known for worrying about blowing the monthly budget when locating supplies for committing horrible crimes against humanity. That all assumes that such an individual would still be interested in using a firearm for such a thing, as opposed to a high-speed automobile or a 5 gallon can of gasoline. Man could never pass enough laws or ban enough items to keep true wack-jobs from trying to take out lots of people. It's just not feasible.
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Yes I do and more then so AMMO..
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How do they know who has what, and stock up on reloading components. I just bought LOTS of powders and primers yesterday. Enough to reload for the rest of my days. No need to worry about feeding my toys now.
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Another thing they'll try is to get the Treasury Sec. to reclassify everything as a "destructive weapons". Remember what Lloyd Bentsen did in 1994 when he successfully changed the classification of the Street Sweeper shotgun. He did it all with the stroke of his pen and totally circumvented Congress.! There was no argument, no dissent. It was sign and done, just what the Dems want. And since they were [b][color:#3333FF]successful at it once[/color][/b], there's precedence for them to try again...
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How do they know who has what, and stock up on reading components. I just bought LOTS of powders and primers yesterday. Enough to reload for the rest of my days. No need to worry about feeding my toys now. Remember what you are doing though.. basically you are saying in so many words, screw everyone else, I'm gonna protect myself. And like I've told others if things get banned and then told to turn in but you refuse like many will.. what real good will it do you because you can't make noise or get caught at that point, you'll be a felon in jail. The only thing they can be used for is an attempt to overthrow. What should be done is keep the pressure on. No bans, no taxes, no limits, just enforce the laws you have out there RE murder and such. Damn novel idea, but I kinda suspect it might work. And I"m not singling you out, just saying too many think, hey if I buy it before the "ban" I"m good. All you have to do is look at history and other countries to know that may not be the case at all. And I feel for those in panic buys right now.... market rules and that sucks. Me.. i"mt rying to build a suppressed 300 whisper.. it'll suck for me too, cept I have some of the major parts.... but I'll even get hammered trying to buy an M4 stripped upper I bet....
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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the cat is already out of the bag. Pandora's box opened long ago. There are probably better than 100 million firarms in America. No freaking way they can be 'rounded up'......... There are a lot more than 100 million firearms in this country. And of course, that decreases the feasibility of any confiscation plan. It decreases the feasibility of any plan given the large public outcry (and subsequent voting at the next election).
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I seriously doubt the Democrats will be satisfied with the previous ban. It really didn't take anything off the street. Maybe the Street Sweeper I suppose. On the other hand, it's not a certainty they have enough votes just to pass the previous ban again.
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But that large an amount of weapons could be taxed out of existance, and or ammo priced so high with "safety" taxes like cigarettes taht you could never afford to own or shoot....
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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