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I have been seeing some improvement in the Austin area, used Glock police trade ins at Cabelas the other day, some reloading bullets for my .308. Saw two AR-15's at a small local shop, also they had some 9X19, .223 and 9 MM Makarov ammo. The 9 X 19 and .223 was too high in price, I refuse to pay $25.00 for a box of 9 MM when it was $14.99 6 months ago.

The shortage of .22 rim fire continues, no where at all. All 3 gunshops had AR-15 magazines in stock, but at $30.00-40.00 apiece. At least it looks like it is getting better, now if I can only get a brick of .22 rimfire at pre-panic prices?!

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I got an email a few weeks ago from midsouth shooters that my back ordered 77gr SMK's were in stock and would ship. Today I realized they hadn't made it, I called and the kind lady said they were on back order again and she didnt know why they didnt ship when they had em. Good thing I ordered 1000 Nosler 77's and got them on the shelf.

Picked up an M&P Shield in 9mm last week. Paid $6.00 over list when he added shipping. He had a half a dozen AR's priced $1300 or so. A small plastic tub with a few boxes of 223 ammo. 10/22's galore for $365. Stopped by a few more shops looking for some TAC powder with no luck. Have a big jug back ordered guess I'll just wait on it.

Things are trickling in but it still seems like the net is the best bet for components.

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Paid $17 each for two boxes of .22WMR last night at Big 5. It was all they had, no .22LR, .25ACP, .380, .38, 9mm, .45ACP, .223, etc.

They did have a few boxes of .32 and some rifle ammo.

The ammo shelves at Sportsman's in Colorado Springs this weekend were pretty empty. Almost all the plastic buckets they keep brass in were turned upside down. They had some .280 Rem brass I considered buying but decided against. They also had some .44-40 brass or some such and maybe one or two other oddball types.


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22mag jumped to $14 a box here and up until last week was plentiful, now it's getting thin. Plenty of 17hmr, 40, 45 and rifle shells but very little 22lr, no 9mm and the few boxes of 223 that I saw.

This week I'm on the road 2 days so I'll see how the 4 shops I usually stop at are doing.

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Scheels in Fargo had thousands upon thousands of 17HMR yesterday at good prices.

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17 hmr and shotgun shells (target & bird loads) are all you can find around here. Don't have a 17 but maybe I should get one.

And, I'm beginning to wonder if I need to start "hording" shotgun shells. Sure would be a kick in the ass if they start to get scarce.


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Originally Posted by FlaRick
17 hmr and shotgun shells (target & bird loads) are all you can find around here. Don't have a 17 but maybe I should get one.

And, I'm beginning to wonder if I need to start "hording" shotgun shells. Sure would be a kick in the ass if they start to get scarce.


You haven't started?

Bought 10 boxes of 00 buck long ago and have had lots of shotshells for doves to geese for years now.

The biggest thing people forget to hoard is water. When the electricity goes off water will be hard to come by for many.


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Another weekend, another gun show. This time the Tanner in Denver.

Prices are still high. Saw some Remnington 525-count boxes of .22LR for $85 and up.

Bought three boxes of .38 Special. Hornady 20-count 110g FTX Critical Defense was $20 (I bought 2), Winchester 50-count 125g SP was $30.

Haven't received the brass or bullets I bought online and always like to chrony a couple factory loads in a new gun anyway. Plan to load 110g for my wife.

Also bought 1 50-count box of Federal's 85g .327 Fed soft point loads. Wife uses these in her SP101 and, although I have dies, haven't started to reload for this one yet.

Picked up two more new metal 30-round ..223/5.56 mags for 20 each. C-Products Defense. Not sure if the ones I have on order will get here before Colorado's new ban on sales/transfers goes into effect.

Once again I found myself wishing prices were lower but happy to find what I needed at prices that, given the current situation, were better than expected.


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Yep no end in sight yet here in southern Missouri


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Yeah, when I can walk into the local WalMart or Academy and buy a box of Winchester white box 9mm, then I'll believe we're over the hump. Same goes for bolt carrier groups...things are rare as hen's teeth.

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A couple stores here have been getting Colt ARs in the past couple of weeks. $1100 and change out the door. I laugh at the Bushmaster's and DPMS rifles there was selling for much higher than that.

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Originally Posted by TWR
You're still missing market value and inflated scare tactics.

When Walmart goes up on their prices then that is market value. When people buy up all the inventory at retail price and then try to turn it for a profit, that's gouging.

I can't make it any simpler.
You really haven't a clue how markets work. Ever own a business? Ever run a business? Our marketplace works on the profit we make on our goods and services. If we don't profit, we end up out of business. Overprice your wares and you are most likely out of business. I have had the pleasure of being my own boss for 46 years, all in the same retail establishment. I have learned that there is a "market price" for everything and you make money when you BUY, not when you sell. If you don't buy right, you are dead in the water. By the way. I have bought a lot of stuff from Walmart,Sam's Club, fleet farm, online, pop from the local grocery because it is half the price from coke or pepsi, and many other items from local businesses, and all to resell at my place of business. That is how the market works. I also sell guns. When the latest craze hit, guess what I did. I bought a bunch of Mini 14's, SKS's, and Ar's from a local dealer that did not use the internet and paid him full list price. I then proceeded to sell them on Gunbroker and double my money on them. I also have an FFL and can't get any more guns to sell as my wholesalers have no product. So you are telling me that selling guns to willing buyers, in an auction format is price gouging? I call it good business and this is how I make my living. By buying products for one price and selling them for more. Capitalism is what it is called and if you don't choose to buy, then don't. I could care less.

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my local wmt is still short on some ammo (223. 22. and a few others), but they get .223 rifles almost every week, and still sell them at the "old" price. they had a dpms and a colt a few days ago. however, they keep them in the back, out of view. all one need do is ask the clerk who can bring them up on the computer. while things appear to be getting better, we ain't home yet.

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Holcomb30347, as a matter of fact I do own my own business and been running one for near 30 years now. I compete in the auto parts business, ever compete with Chinese junk at bargain prices with lifetime warranties? Don't tell me I don't know what market value is or how to buy right. I deal with it everyday but what you asses don't take into account is repeat customers who value an honest deal and excellent service. Screw all you pricks thinking that you can survive by inflating a market with scare tactics and keeping the availability bought up so you can double your money.

Anyone who thinks its okay to buy the complete Walmart shipment of say 22 shells at regular retail prices only to resale at insane prices cause that is capitalism... GFY

I'm proud that my value is based on great service at a fair price rather than screwing my customers.

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Originally Posted by TWR
Holcomb30347, as a matter of fact I do own my own business and been running one for near 30 years now. I compete in the auto parts business, ever compete with Chinese junk at bargain prices with lifetime warranties? Don't tell me I don't know what market value is or how to buy right. I deal with it everyday but what you asses don't take into account is repeat customers who value an honest deal and excellent service. Screw all you pricks thinking that you can survive by inflating a market with scare tactics and keeping the availability bought up so you can double your money.

Anyone who thinks its okay to buy the complete Walmart shipment of say 22 shells at regular retail prices only to resale at insane prices cause that is capitalism... GFY

I'm proud that my value is based on great service at a fair price rather than screwing my customers.
As a matter of fact I do know the auto parts business having owned a service station for all of those 46 years, I also sell guns and am a Realtor to boot. I do all these things so I can have some of the nicer things in life. You think I stayed in business all those years because I "screwed people" in a small town? The point of the matter is, I sell things to willing customers. They know up front how much I will sell my inventory for. Whether it be a house, a gun, or repairing their vehicle. I do this and everyone is happy to buy from me. I had people driving several hours to pick up firearms at my place because they WANTED to. I did not force them to buy these things. They also did not have to have these things. They wanted these firearms. It is no different than people going to gun shows. They willingly go to them and buy things because they want them. The only scare tactics here are the ones being introduced by our government. I have been the transfer FFL at several gun auctions this past couple months. The prices people will pay now for firearms is nuts. Is the auctioneer supposed to stand up there and say, this Ruger 10/22 sells for $200, someone please give me $150 because it's used and go on to the next item, or does he sell it to the highest bidder? CAPITALISM is what it is called and is how those big box stores got to be where they are. We do not need price controls. Socialists all over the world have proven time and again that they don't work.

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Went to gun show in Greenville SC this weekend. Light crowd on Sunday.

Georgia Arms had 500 round cases of .223 for $285. I picked up a couple of 100 round boxes of Federal AE 223 55gr for $65 each.

Plenty of black rifles for under $1,000.

But the 22LR is still going for $60+ per brick and bulk 9mm was nonexistent, although there was a scattering of 20/25 round boxes of premium 9mm for $20-$30 per box.

Magpul G3 PMags were not selling at $30....one shop has a pile of em with $30 price and I don't think they sold many, if any.

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Been checking the gun shops here in Austin, TX too. 30 round AR mags around $30.00, 9 MM at $24.00 a box, one shop had .22 rimfire, but it was $23.00 a box of 50. Other center fire rifle cartridges are more available, even have seen a few .308 as well.

.223 loaded cartridges, .22 RF, all primers, and .223 bullets for reloading are extremely rare or none at all available. I don't see the huge panicky crowds anymore, was at a place on Saturday, only one guy was milling around, quiet, clerk asked if I needed help. Plenty of black rifles under $1,000 at some locations. Bare of them at others. Lots of semi-automatic handguns. Nice to see things getting better.

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Yes I believe As well that this shilly sit is about to stop,
All you gotta do is look on gunbroker and see things are starting to go for lower prices.
Heck I check out a few classifieds boards and at them and even here Ar and components are dropping like a rock.
Things that a month ago would have been scarfed up as soon as they hit the classifieds are now sitting there waiting for someone to say I,ll take it.
Barring unforeseen circumstances I believe with the next month or even less this is going to be a buyers market .


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what shortage? wink


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Originally Posted by eh76
what shortage? wink


I was there too until I noticed I was down to 200 .308 Lapua Scenars the other day. Now I'm feeling the pinch too.

It's like planning for a camping trip, you plan and plan but sooner or later fait is gonna bite you in the arse and you will have forgotten something you really needed frown .



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