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No what I am eluding to is that the FBI was very aware of what they were doing.

Seriously, look up the facts. Yep after an FBI investigation that includes questioning, they just burn your file when they don't find anything. They erase their memories.....so much so that they(FBI) have to ask citizens to identify the very individuals that they investigated two years ago.

I would be willing to bet they've been under surveillance ever since. At least electronically. They knew about their posts on the radical forum. They knew who they visited in Russia (radical muslims) Hell the RUSSIAN government wanted to know who the older brother was two years ago because THEY knew who he was visiting.


But you folks are sold on the story CNN and FN are selling lol.

Cursory knowledge of the "Enemy Combatatant" rules might avoid you falling into the "moron" category...

What might be the operational point in this case is that there is plenty enough physical evidence to convict regardless and that the need to learn if there are any other t's from the same radicalized group. Police work is based on gathering evidence for convictions. Counter-terrorist work is based on gathering timely intelligence to stop more horrors. The criminal justice system is just not adequate to fulfill that particular need. Add to that, there is a disgustingly strong drive of political correctness that seriously compounds that particular failing. My choice? Stop any future threats and have the current t suddenly expire from his wounds.

Was Timothy McVeigh an "enemy Combatant"? He wasn't tried as one....

Then you need to change your avatar. Or maybe turn it upside down. But keep your username, it fits.

You've hit on most of it but I'll add that not having a lawyer present during questioning is another. A lawyer would advise his client to remain silent and not answer any questions that would incriminate him.

I don't have a problem with this terrorist not being Mirandized. There's more than enough evidence to convict him and anything he says up until he has been read his rights would not have to submitted as testimony in his trial. That's the way to avoid controversy and legal issues in convicting him, due process and the right to a fair trial.

Use the public safety provision to question him about other threats and then not present that info during trial.

Never say never but I don't think you find a juror that won't find him guilty with just the evidence that's come out so far.

Timothy McVeigh was pre-9/11 and it was clearly an all domestic operation. Different world today and we cannot afford to ensure there's not another component to this. Either way, he'll get due process. There is enough evidence to execute him no matter where he gets tried, with or without Miranda. In my view intelligence exploitation should be paramount at this time.

You have absolutely NO idea what my avatar means then. Look up "Order of the Dragon". It fits PERFECTLY with my approach.

Oh so you admit to being a complete [bleep] moron? You are no better than the people you believe "you're holier than". [bleep] garbage....

Why don't you hop on a plane and go fight the crusade......oh wait never mind, you'd rather act like a tough guy...lol

A terrorist bomber is nothing new in America; goes back a long ways. EVERY last one who was an american citizen has been treated as a common criminal and put through the CJ system. How do justify usurping someone's civil rights?

It doesn't matter what it was before or after, or if it was a "domestic operation". The suspect is still an American citizen just like you.

I just love how all the jellyfish believe the "play dumb" tactic of the FBI....lol. I also cant believe the level of stupidity of you idiots that are OPENLY AND WILLINGLY wanting the suspects civil rights to be taken away. Guess what, same as with the 2nd amend, you give an inch they'll take a mile.

Ya give away this guy's rights. Then maybe five years down the road none of us will have them.

Due Process - Build a temporary gallows out in center field of Fenway Park and due process his butt. Don't care if he is 19, he has it coming.

The constitution didn't change after 9/11. You can talk all you want, call me a liberal pinko-commie and all that crap, but the constitution hasn't changed.

The fact is Obama and Eric Holder will make the call on this one. No gallows will go up any place. And it go on and on and on. Years will go by.

Well of course, they got what they wanted. They wanted the explosion. Now they can run through more unconstitutional legislation and everyone like you people will applaud it. (Like the Patriot Act, NDAA, ect).

Holder was in charge of one of the biggest false flag events this country has ever seen (Operation Fast and Furious). It was a false flag to take 2nd amendment rights away, or at a minimum enforce restrictions.

That may be so. I don�t know what the venue will be, whether it�s Massachusetts law or federal. Obviously the crime happened in Mass, but terrorism generally falls to the FBI so I assume that becomes a federal crime. Mass doesn�t have a death penalty, but the Fed does. My bet is, this will string on for an awfully long time, but in the end he�ll fry�couldn�t happen to a nicer guy.

I have already done more than my fair share of fighting. Different crusade. I killed communists. What have you done noteworthy ever to actually combat such fine organiztations as muslim radicals or communist slime?? Dickhead.

Hope you are right.

Oh Im sorry, Im not a religious nut job, Dickhead. Nor do I get off on the same [bleep] you do (im sorry you cant let go of the unjust war you may or may not have fought in). I keep the Peace, You spew hate, dickhead.

You're so [bleep] stupid you cant even put two and two together. The FBI stated they had no idea who these two were. Yet they had be under surveillance for at least two years....BY THE FBI. lol

Not 100% correct, amigo. Long ago I was locked up for 72 hours on "suspicion," whatever that means. Maybe the law has changed in that area now, I don't know. O, they, Albuquerque, NM cops, finally admitted that I was the wrong guy but I already knew that.