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I have been using Butch's Bore Shine for a while now and have been well satisfied. Lately Montana Extreme has been getting a lot of good reviews. Your opinion of one over the other? Your pick and why?
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I have been using Butch's Bore Shine for a while now and have been well satisfied. Lately Montana Extreme has been getting a lot of good reviews. Your opinion of one over the other? Your pick and why? How bout neither and get Boretech elminator? I have used the other 2 and will not ever again one does not clean well enough BBS and the ME smells to high heaven . I have used every single product made by Sharpshootr ie the Wipeout line and Boretech trumps it every time.
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There is no comparison. BB Shine does a horrible job of removing copper and Eliminator is a bit better. Montana works but it stinks to high heaven and is labor intensice. You should try Wipeout Bore Foam.
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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Get wipeout and forget about cleaning products ever again. Yeah
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Get wipeout and forget about cleaning products ever again. Yeah Not quite , the product has been eclipsed by boretech eliminator. I don[t use brass brushes or anything of the sort. I have used wipeout,patchout,accelerator since these products came out. None of them touch boretech eliminator. I have not had to try their copper remover yet.
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Interesting, couldn't imagine anything better. Ill give that a go next time I run out of wipeout.
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I haven't used all the products mentioned; this is just a comment on Butches: I have found quite a difference in effectiveness from one bottle to the next. My first bottle was OK, 2nd worthless for copper removal, 3rd works very well.
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I think Butch's works fine for a few patches down the bore when cleaning at the range etc. For real cleaning I use Wipe-Out, but the Boretech has peaked my interest.
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FWIW I've also found BT Eliminator works great.
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How strong is Boretech? Like Sweets or c-10, or less so. I've used Butch's for a long time. I'd give Boretech a look if it isn't too caustic. mtmuley
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Wipe Out for bad copper fouling, Eliminator for everything else.
Sweets smells so bad and from what I've heard, not to be left in a long time. Butch's does OK, smells less than Sweets.
To me, Eliminator is the least noxious of the regular cleaners and Wipe Out, the "nuclear option" for a big job.
Since treating with Dyna Bore Coat, I don't use Wipe Out that much, a few Eliminator soaks usually does the trick.
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Get wipeout and forget about cleaning products ever again. Yeah I got suckered into trying that stuff about two years ago.. Once - was quite enough.. It did NUTHIN'.... Until now I'd not heard of Boretech..
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I have been using Butch's Bore Shine for a while now and have been well satisfied. Lately Montana Extreme has been getting a lot of good reviews. Your opinion of one over the other? Your pick and why? How bout neither and get Boretech elminator? I have used the other 2 and will not ever again one does not clean well enough BBS and the ME smells to high heaven . I have used every single product made by Sharpshootr ie the Wipeout line and Boretech trumps it every time. This ^^^^^^ I've used nothing but BTE for the last several years and a nylon brush. I [bleep] canned the brass brushes at the same time. A little JB in the throats every time as well. BTE is water soluble and no smell to stink up the joint.
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Get wipeout and forget about cleaning products ever again. Yeah I got suckered into trying that stuff about two years ago.. Once - was quite enough.. It did NUTHIN'.... Until now I'd not heard of Boretech.. I hardly ever use Wipe Out. But, for gross copper fouling, it's very good. They have an accelerator that can be applied before the Wipe Out. I plug the chamber with a big patch or a rag, which keeps the stuff from getting everywhere. The secret is leaving it in the bore for a while. Eliminator is a good product. I think it was Precision Shooter Magazine or similar publication that did a piece on bore cleaners. IIRC, Eliminator came out on top for copper fouling. It's not as smelly or nasty as some of the others. DF
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Bore tech eliminator is the best bore solvent I've ever used. Almost no smell and works quickly. I have a storage bin full of cleaners and lubes so I've tried most. I haven't used Butchs for years. It's highly toxic with nitrobenzene and doesn't clean copper as well as others. You will not be disappointed with Boretech Eliminator. I've not used their dedicated copper cleaner since the standard cleaner brings out blue/green patches almost instantly. No smell.
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I'm always looking for something to improve the cleaning job. I have been using Montana Extreme and Wipeout for the last year or two. I'll have to give BTE a try.
If we live long enough, we all have regrets. But the ones that nag at us the most are the ones in which we know we had a choice.
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I just don't see how that is possible. Wipeout Foam COMPLETELY removes the copper and fouling. Sure rough bores need more attention but I've tried everything and while Montana Products, Sweets & Barnes' ammonia based solvents work, they require a hell of a lot of elbow grease.
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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I'm always looking for something to improve the cleaning job. I have been using Montana Extreme and Wipeout for the last year or two. I'll have to give BTE a try. You'll be SORELY disappointed...
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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Get wipeout and forget about cleaning products ever again. Yeah I got suckered into trying that stuff about two years ago.. Once - was quite enough.. It did NUTHIN'.... Not possible, unless your barrel was clean already. Even after about an hour you can stick a qtip in the muzzle and it will turn blue. Were you letting it soak? I usually leave it overnight, then give it a zip with the boresnake.
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Get wipeout and forget about cleaning products ever again. Yeah I got suckered into trying that stuff about two years ago.. Once - was quite enough.. It did NUTHIN'.... Not possible, unless your barrel was clean already. Even after about an hour you can stick a qtip in the muzzle and it will turn blue. Were you letting it soak? I usually leave it overnight, then give it a zip with the boresnake. IMHO, letting it soak long enough is the secret. I hardly ever use the Accelerator pre Wipe Out application. I've heard that you don't want to leave that stuff in over night. An over night Wipe Out soaking, no problem. DF
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