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Ive done plenty of the new school speed kills route...happily. Ive done plenty of old school, big heavy slow bullets kill route too....happily.
Will do more of both, because I want to. Yup. Just when I had kinda "mastered" thumping stuff at distances beyond 400 yards, went back to thumping stuff up close'n personal again, with 444 Marlins and 35 Remingtons. Now I got one of them newfangled 30-30s and am looking to conjure up some venison this fall with that trend setter. But we all know round nosed bullets just fall outta muzzles and hit the ground right in front of ya. Right?
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Now I got one of them newfangled 30-30s and am looking to conjure up some venison this fall with that trend setter. But we all know round nosed bullets just fall outta muzzles and hit the ground right in front of ya. Right? Go right ahead. I'll tell ya what, you can HAVE ALL them 30-30s and R N bullets. I'll not be any competition. IF you are happy that's all that matters. I'm happy, hope you are!
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Hey Guys, don't let Cub fool ya. Those Canadian coins are American DOLLAR size! I'm outed! Glad you saw the humor. Jerry
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Ive done plenty of the new school speed kills route...happily. Ive done plenty of old school, big heavy slow bullets kill route too....happily.
Will do more of both, because I want to. Yup. Just when I had kinda "mastered" thumping stuff at distances beyond 400 yards, went back to thumping stuff up close'n personal again, with 444 Marlins and 35 Remingtons. Now I got one of them newfangled 30-30s and am looking to conjure up some venison this fall with that trend setter. But we all know round nosed bullets just fall outta muzzles and hit the ground right in front of ya. Right? That .30-30 concept will never catch on....
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That .30-30 concept will never catch on....AGAIN..
That's more accurate!
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That .30-30 concept will never catch on....AGAIN..
That's more accurate! Easy to see you haven't tried to buy any .30-30 ammo lately. There's plenty of .270, .30-06, .308 and .243 on the shelves here lately but .30-30's are still mighty scarce. The local Dick's just got a shipment in last week and it was all gone in two hours. Don't know about where you are but here in rural upstate NY the top 5 "big game" cartridges based on ammo sales are .243, .270, .30-30, .308 and .30-06.
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I don't buy factory ammo, don't look for any.
Last I bought was in 2008 for a new rifle the DAY before deer season started.
BTW. It was NOT 30-30!
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B T W - I have not owned nor hunted a 30-30 since 1975.
Don't miss it.
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B T W - I have not owned nor hunted a 30-30 since 1975.
Don't miss it. Really ? I've killed 64 deer with mine since then and would never part with any of them {I have 3}. I've used a couple metric schittons of other rifles and cartridges to kill deer with over the past 4 decades and have never been convinced any were better or more effective, all things considered, for most of the hunting I do. I still have several perfectly good scoped bolt actions in the safe {.223 , .243, .308 and .30-06} but mostly they collect dust while the .30-30's go hunting.
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Really !
It's been a long time since I've seen anyone carrying a 30-30 in S Ark.
If it fills your needs--that's great.
I'm no competition for the rifles nor factory ammo.
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It's all woods where I hunt these days {state forest}. Rare to get a shot past 80 yards. At the distances I kill my deer a .30-30 is as deadly as anything. It's still fairly common to see other hunters carrying lever action .30-30's, 32's and .35's around here. In fact, I got a bunch of friends together one afternoon to do some deer drives here a couple years ago and 3 of 6 showed up with .30-30 lever guns.
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That's all you need, could use a handgun.
I have and it works.
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I've killed a couple with a .357 Blackhawk but I don't rely on it as my main meat maker.
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[quoteThat .30-30 concept will never catch on....] [/quote]
Several years into retirement, now upgrading from my stodgy M94 in 32 Special and other lever rifles. I ain't afeart of progress.
No RNs though, had to settle for some racy looking Sierra FPs, or as they call 'em, flat noses.
24" barreled M64 Winchester. Damn near on a par with the uber velocity stuff, might even crack 2500fps?
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Several years into retirement, now upgrading from my stodgy M94 in 32 Special and other lever rifles. I ain't afeart of progress.
No RNs though, had to settle for some racy looking Sierra FPs, or as they call 'em, flat noses.
Bah! Flat Noses. The retarded cousin of the finely shape round nose. You want some flat nose bullets, just smash the point on a round nose. j/k btw
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Sometime around the mid-80s, Rem. made a limited run of M7600 pump carbines in 30-06 and my huntin' bud showed up with a new one in doe season.
No scope, factory irons and a coupla boxes of RN Core Lokts, 180gr I think? This was a guy who was a dedicated long range shooter, with assorted rifles for the chore, 40XB, custom Hart-barreled 300x7 Weatherby bench rifle, M700 Varminter in 6mm w/26" Douglass SS, etc.
Forget now WTH the deal was with the pump carbine, but he ran out the back door on opening day around lunch time and poleaxed a running doe with that thing, maybe 60 yards behind the cabin, up in the woods. Knocked her over like a one pin spare at the bowling alley, with big money on the line.
He said "this little bastard works" and was happy with the effort. Never saw it again at deer camp. One of them quirky little things that kinda sticks with ya, years later.
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They're fairly popular where I'm at as well. Accurate enough for deer hunting at practical ranges and carry rather nicely. Depending on make, model, vintage they can be quite accurate. My uncle still has a early 40's vintage 94 that is damn accurate and I've watched him bowl over many a deer at over 200 yards with 170 gr core lokts.
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Over the years I slayed my share of deer with any manner of centerfire rifles, all action types, bullet shapes and diameters. The last few seasons have found me toting a Savage lever carbine in .303 Savage exclusively- because I like it, and it suits me and my style of hunting. Oh, and the bullets I use? Really really old school- flat nosed 190gr. cast lead bullets. Perhaps this year I'll finish building my .30-40 Krag custom rifle in time for deer season, in which case the bullet will be a 220 grain cast lead number, round nose of course.
I kind of like being the only guy in my neck of the woods who doesn't carry a RemWinRuger with a Hubble telescope on it chambered in some 3000fps wonder cartridge. It's only a deer for petesakes, let's not overthink it.
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Sine the RN'd bullets are still allowed to go past 100 yds, I'd not worry about it and shoot the hell out of them.
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Glad we didn't get into the 'brush busting' part of the discussion. Give it time. Nobody from WI posted yet.
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