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Re: 7x57 v 7-08 PJGunner #8547666 02/04/14
Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 4,852 R RevMike OP Campfire Tracker
OP RevMike Campfire Tracker R Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 4,852	Originally Posted by PJGunner Just got the latest RIFLE Magazine in the mail. There's an article on the 7x57 in it. Haven't read it yet sonot sure how good it might be. Paul B. Mine isn't here yet, but thanks for the heads up. "An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown

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Re: 7x57 v 7-08 New_2_99s #8547674 02/04/14
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OP RevMike Campfire Tracker R Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 4,852	Originally Posted by New_2_99s Originally Posted by RevMike Poor cellphone camera picture, but a couple of weeks ago on the closing day of deer season. Rev, Beautiful rifle in an obsolete caliber. I'd re-barrel to 7mm-08 & call it all good. Yeah, my wife needs a rifle of her own. "An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown

Re: 7x57 v 7-08 RevMike #8547676 02/04/14
Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 96,162 Likes: 3 Southern New Mexico E elkhunternm Campfire Oracle
elkhunternm Campfire Oracle E Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 96,162 Likes: 3 Southern New Mexico	Rev,you could go to the Nosler website and get the load data. Life Member SCI Life Member DSC Member New Mexico Shooting Sports Association Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard Ken

Re: 7x57 v 7-08 RevMike #8547711 02/04/14
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OP RevMike Campfire Tracker R Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 4,852	Sat in a stand and watched one raccoon and five turkey eat every kernel of corn that was scattered for pigs. The "wary Osceola turkey" my foot. I laugh every time I read an outdoor writer say that. I wasn't wearing a lick of camo, and I still could have killed these with a BB gun. Needless to say I didn't get to lob an obsolete round at a pig. So I'll try again tomorrow. "An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown

Re: 7x57 v 7-08 deflave #8547712 02/04/14
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,306 Likes: 2 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,306 Likes: 2 Southwestern Montucky	Originally Posted by deflave I'm not frustrated at all. I own a 7-08. A 10" twisted 7X57? Holy [bleep]. That's gotta be like the Holy Grail of stupid. Travis "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

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Re: 7x57 v 7-08 elkhunternm #8547715 02/04/14
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OP RevMike Campfire Tracker R Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 4,852	Originally Posted by elkhunternm Rev,you could go to the Nosler website and get the load data. I'll look. Is it up to snuff? "An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown

Re: 7x57 v 7-08 elkhunternm #8547717 02/04/14
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BobinNH Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 35,900	It's platforms to me that distinguish the two...a cleverly designed and assembled 7x57 on a small ring Mauser of correct length(so the cartridge is not swimming aimlessly in an action too big) is a real pleasure to handle and shoot. Likewise there isn't a more perfectly matched rifle/cartridge combo available today(IMHO), than the 7/08 and a Kimber 84M in wood or Montana configuration. As to killing, it isn't hard to make them both work. The 280 Remington is overbore. The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.

Re: 7x57 v 7-08 RevMike #8547724 02/04/14
Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 96,162 Likes: 3 Southern New Mexico E elkhunternm Campfire Oracle
elkhunternm Campfire Oracle E Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 96,162 Likes: 3 Southern New Mexico	Yes,it's the same as their printed manual. Life Member SCI Life Member DSC Member New Mexico Shooting Sports Association Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard Ken

Re: 7x57 v 7-08 elkhunternm #8547730 02/04/14
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OP RevMike Campfire Tracker R Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 4,852	Originally Posted by elkhunternm Yes,it's the same as their printed manual. I'll check it out, thanks. "An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown

Re: 7x57 v 7-08 New_2_99s #8547745 02/04/14
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hh4whiskey Campfire Tracker H Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 3,649 Likes: 2 Ala-Freaking Bama! via Texas	The 7-08 only exists because a 7x57 got drunk and knocked up a 30.8" midget or her 24.3" sister, nobody knows for sure. Actually, all my favorite rounds pizz me off by being on different case lengths/cases/actions...280/06, 243/7-08/308/358, and 7x57...but I still likem all for one thing or another. I just gravitate to the x57 lately, cuz it's my new, old toy...and is so dang efficient.

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Re: 7x57 v 7-08 hh4whiskey #8547761 02/04/14
Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 96,162 Likes: 3 Southern New Mexico E elkhunternm Campfire Oracle
elkhunternm Campfire Oracle E Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 96,162 Likes: 3 Southern New Mexico	I load a 175 gr NP Semi-Spitzer to an OAL 3.276" for this CZ. Life Member SCI Life Member DSC Member New Mexico Shooting Sports Association Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard Ken

Re: 7x57 v 7-08 elkhunternm #8547762 02/04/14
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OP RevMike Campfire Tracker R Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 4,852	Originally Posted by elkhunternm Yes,it's the same as their printed manual. Yep, that's good. Thanks. I'll print some out and make some comparisons. Tough to do on this phone. "An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown

Re: 7x57 v 7-08 RevMike #8547779 02/04/14
Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 96,162 Likes: 3 Southern New Mexico E elkhunternm Campfire Oracle
elkhunternm Campfire Oracle E Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 96,162 Likes: 3 Southern New Mexico	Life Member SCI Life Member DSC Member New Mexico Shooting Sports Association Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard Ken

Re: 7x57 v 7-08 elkhunternm #8547796 02/04/14
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OP RevMike Campfire Tracker R Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 4,852	Originally Posted by elkhunternm I load a 175 gr NP Semi-Spitzer to an OAL 3.276" for this CZ. The twist in that CZ is 1:866 (1:220mm). Great for something that heavy. I'm gonna have to see if I can pick up a Zastava to play with (same twist) since I missed out on the CZ. "An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown

Re: 7x57 v 7-08 RevMike #8547859 02/04/14
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elkhunternm Campfire Oracle E Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 96,162 Likes: 3 Southern New Mexico	It'll shoot the 175 Gr NP SS into an inch at 100 yds and with the 24" barrel the bullet is going 2625 fps. Life Member SCI Life Member DSC Member New Mexico Shooting Sports Association Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard Ken

Re: 7x57 v 7-08 deflave #8548040 02/04/14
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CRS Campfire Tracker Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 5,936 Black Hills of Dakota	Originally Posted by deflave Originally Posted by RevMike Originally Posted by John_G On the7-08 side, it's certainly the case that reloading is usually an easier proposition, considering all the different chamber/throat issues with the Mauser. But still, not a big point, as anyone with a 7x57 can work those issues out and come up with an accurate load. Help me out: If the rifle has been made in the last, say, 10 years, wouldn't all that be standardized by now? No. Because some of these dinosaurs still want 4" throats so they can shoot 175gr elephant bullets and others want short throats so they can shoot the 120gt TSX. Add that all up and you get a big abortion. AKA The 7x57. Travis It's not an abortion, just a woman that does not know what it wants! Some men like complicated woman, some do not. I traded my 7x57 for a 404 Jeffery, now we're talking elephants! Arcus Venator

Re: 7x57 v 7-08 John_G #8548161 02/04/14
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 56,216 Likes: 23 In the Swamps DigitalDan Campfire Kahuna
DigitalDan Campfire Kahuna Joined: May 2004 Posts: 56,216 Likes: 23 In the Swamps	Quote and using Muledeer's formula of 4% increase in capacity giving you 1% increase in velocity, that comes to 1.33%, which means 35 fps more with a 140-gr. bullet (assuming same pressure). Oh sure, now it Mule Deer's fault! I am..........disturbed. Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain

Re: 7x57 v 7-08 DigitalDan #8548166 02/04/14
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,306 Likes: 2 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,306 Likes: 2 Southwestern Montucky	Its Mule Deer's fault that I have a .204! But I was slumming a 7x57 even before I met him, which has been awhile ago... "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: 7x57 v 7-08 hh4whiskey #8548167 02/04/14
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 56,216 Likes: 23 In the Swamps DigitalDan Campfire Kahuna
DigitalDan Campfire Kahuna Joined: May 2004 Posts: 56,216 Likes: 23 In the Swamps	Quote The 7-08 only exists because a 7x57 got drunk and knocked up a 30.8" midget or her 24.3" sister, nobody knows for sure. wink You got Mensa potential... Laffin'- I am..........disturbed. Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain

Re: 7x57 v 7-08 DigitalDan #8548170 02/04/14
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,306 Likes: 2 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,306 Likes: 2 Southwestern Montucky	Don't be sneezing' at the Mensa potential�. "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

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