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Just got the latest RIFLE Magazine in the mail. There's an article on the 7x57 in it. Haven't read it yet sonot sure how good it might be. Paul B. Mine isn't here yet, but thanks for the heads up.
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Poor cellphone camera picture, but a couple of weeks ago on the closing day of deer season. Rev, Beautiful rifle in an obsolete caliber. I'd re-barrel to 7mm-08 & call it all good. Yeah, my wife needs a rifle of her own.
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Rev,you could go to the Nosler website and get the load data.
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Sat in a stand and watched one raccoon and five turkey eat every kernel of corn that was scattered for pigs. The "wary Osceola turkey" my foot. I laugh every time I read an outdoor writer say that. I wasn't wearing a lick of camo, and I still could have killed these with a BB gun. Needless to say I didn't get to lob an obsolete round at a pig.
So I'll try again tomorrow.
"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
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I'm not frustrated at all. I own a 7-08.
A 10" twisted 7X57? Holy [bleep]. That's gotta be like the Holy Grail of stupid.
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Rev,you could go to the Nosler website and get the load data. I'll look. Is it up to snuff?
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It's platforms to me that distinguish the two...a cleverly designed and assembled 7x57 on a small ring Mauser of correct length(so the cartridge is not swimming aimlessly in an action too big) is a real pleasure to handle and shoot.
Likewise there isn't a more perfectly matched rifle/cartridge combo available today(IMHO), than the 7/08 and a Kimber 84M in wood or Montana configuration.
As to killing, it isn't hard to make them both work.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Yes,it's the same as their printed manual.
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Yes,it's the same as their printed manual. I'll check it out, thanks.
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The 7-08 only exists because a 7x57 got drunk and knocked up a 30.8" midget or her 24.3" sister, nobody knows for sure. Actually, all my favorite rounds pizz me off by being on different case lengths/cases/actions...280/06, 243/7-08/308/358, and 7x57...but I still likem all for one thing or another. I just gravitate to the x57 lately, cuz it's my new, old toy...and is so dang efficient.
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I load a 175 gr NP Semi-Spitzer to an OAL 3.276" for this CZ.
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Yes,it's the same as their printed manual. Yep, that's good. Thanks. I'll print some out and make some comparisons. Tough to do on this phone.
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I load a 175 gr NP Semi-Spitzer to an OAL 3.276" for this CZ. The twist in that CZ is 1:866 (1:220mm). Great for something that heavy. I'm gonna have to see if I can pick up a Zastava to play with (same twist) since I missed out on the CZ.
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It'll shoot the 175 Gr NP SS into an inch at 100 yds and with the 24" barrel the bullet is going 2625 fps.
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On the7-08 side, it's certainly the case that reloading is usually an easier proposition, considering all the different chamber/throat issues with the Mauser. But still, not a big point, as anyone with a 7x57 can work those issues out and come up with an accurate load. Help me out: If the rifle has been made in the last, say, 10 years, wouldn't all that be standardized by now? No. Because some of these dinosaurs still want 4" throats so they can shoot 175gr elephant bullets and others want short throats so they can shoot the 120gt TSX. Add that all up and you get a big abortion. AKA The 7x57. Travis It's not an abortion, just a woman that does not know what it wants! Some men like complicated woman, some do not. I traded my 7x57 for a 404 Jeffery, now we're talking elephants!
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and using Muledeer's formula of 4% increase in capacity giving you 1% increase in velocity, that comes to 1.33%, which means 35 fps more with a 140-gr. bullet (assuming same pressure). Oh sure, now it Mule Deer's fault!
I am..........disturbed.
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Its Mule Deer's fault that I have a .204! But I was slumming a 7x57 even before I met him, which has been awhile ago...
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The 7-08 only exists because a 7x57 got drunk and knocked up a 30.8" midget or her 24.3" sister, nobody knows for sure. wink You got Mensa potential... Laffin'-
I am..........disturbed.
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Don't be sneezing' at the Mensa potential�.
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