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Just counted them: 10 little piggies. Three of those little porkers, along with some of their kin, made it into some pulled pork this weekend at our annual parish men's outing. We're going to finish it off tonight since Lent starts tomorrow. I won't eat meat again until Easter Sunday morning, but I don't think there's any rule against continuing to procure it between now and then.
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Ill throw in to the OP that when referencing some of the older articles supplied be careful using the data straight up. I noted that some of them date back to the 60's and 70's and some of the powders have changed slightly since then thus making it possible to create some pressure levels higher than experienced by the author of the article.
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Ill throw in to the OP that when referencing some of the older articles supplied be careful using the data straight up. I noted that some of them date back to the 60's and 70's and some of the powders have changed slightly since then thus making it possible to create some pressure levels higher than experienced by the author of the article. Good point. Thanks! And by the way Ingwe and Elk: the Montana Rifle Company ASR came in today. When I get it cleaned up from all the packaging grease I'll post a pic. Now for a scope...hmmm...what should it be... Mike
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Hey Ingwe; did you ever load and shoot those 150 NBTs at 2500 you were talking about? How'd they do? Try that same velocity in any partitions yet?
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Yes I did! 48.0 gr of H4831 shoots lights out! Im gonna take a couple to Texas and stick them in Axis deer. Tried the same thing years ago with NPTs and the rifle shot them just fine�...
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Going to try 160 gr NP's in the CZ 7x57,just because I can.
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For whatever reason, my rifle wouldn't shoot them. It loved the 150s and 175s�go figger�.
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The CZ has a magazine that is for a .270/.30-06 length cartridge. So I'm gonna seat those 160's waaaayyyyyyy out there and see if those bullets will reach 2750/2800 fps.
Oh,by the way,the CZ has a 24" barrel.
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I'm betting they'd work great in a pig. Might have to give them a try sometime. Maybe even the 160s since one of my 7x57s has a faster twist than the Winchester...although Elk doesn't think it's gonna matter much inside a hundred yards (and he's probably right).
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The 150s are gonna get used mainly on Axis�the pigs will get AIed
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Rev,the 160 gr Nosler Partition is my FAVORITE bullet in a 7mm. Have not tried them in the Mauser,but,in 7mm Rem mag and 7mm Dakota they worked on deer,antelope and elk.
Don't know why it took so long to try them in the little Mauser.
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At the relatively short ranges I shoot I wonder if either the NBT or NPT are really worth messing with. If I was sticking them in deer, maybe, but about the only breathing thing I shoot are pigs.
For example, early Sunday evening (at 7:11 to be exact) five little hoglets came into one of the right-of-ways leading to a feeder. The right-of-way is about 25 yards across and these little fellows, about 65 pounds each, were quartering into me, but still about 25-30 yards out. At that range anything over about a .250 Savage is pretty much overkill, especially considering that, like Geedubya, I generally shoot for CNS. Two of the little sows winded me and the entire sounder took off like lightening. I had my old M94 with me, but wasn't planning to shoot anyway since I didn't feel like going all the way back to the cabin and hooking everything up just to clean a pig. So, they lived to be hunted another day.
Which will be tomorrow afternoon, by the way.
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Rev,at those ranges probably not. Maybe a .222 Remington would be better.
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Maybe a .222 Remington would be better. I've been tempted to run a .223, but with my luck the biggest hog on the property would be lumbering 125 yards away and I'd be kicking myself for not bringing the Mauser. Decisions, decisions...
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I'd have to hire Ingwe as my gun-bearer...carried across his shoulder by the barrel, of course.
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Pay him in beer and whiskey.
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Pay him in beer and whiskey. Got any idea his brands?
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The CZ has a magazine that is for a .270/.30-06 length cartridge. So I'm gonna seat those 160's waaaayyyyyyy out there and see if those bullets will reach 2750/2800 fps.
Oh,by the way,the CZ has a 24" barrel.
Elk, I can't get my 7mms with 22" barrels to shoot 160 NPTs into your fps brackets but can with the 150 grain NPT. Would be interested in your results. Wayne
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