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You have to be a serious turd in Georgia to be a felon, you have negotiations prior to plea, then the First Offender Act and Conditional Discharge Statute opportunities to avail yourself of.
Then there remains a possibilty of having your record expunged or restricted as they call it now after you successfully complete Parole or Probation..
So yes I don't want Felons in my gun club.
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You have to be a serious turd in Georgia to be a felon, you have negotiations prior to plea, then the First Offender Act and Conditional Discharge Statute opportunities to avail yourself of.
Then there remains a possibilty of having your record expunged or restricted as they call it now after you successfully complete Parole or Probation..
So yes I don't want Felons in my gun club.
Mike So you have no probem giving up your right to privacy and giving your gun club/range your social security number, DL number,address, date of birth etc? Since in most states felons cannot own or possess firearms, do you really think they are going to flaunt their guns at a public shooting range where half the members may be leo? Wow lol.
Farming, or anything else for that matter, is easy when your plow's a keyboard and you're a 1000 miles from the field.
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Would you be OK with a sex offender moving in next door to you after his release (rehabilitation) as well ?
Is this a real question? Travis
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Would you be OK with a sex offender moving in next door to you after his release (rehabilitation) as well ? Absolutely...as long as I knew he was a sex offender. I'd much rather have him close where I can keep an eye on him, than watching me and mine from a distance. I'll tell you a secret: sex offenders are handy people to know. The sex offender community, so to speak, is fairly tightly connected, and having an ear in it can be very helpful when it comes to protecting your own people. Probably you won't want to introduce him to your daughters, though.
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guns clubs, shooting ranges, etc.? What is everyone's opinion? I believe background checks should be done on all members and if you are a convicted felon, you should not even have a firearm, much less be a member. Just wondering what everyone thinks. If it is a public range any and everyone should have access. If it is private the club they should be able to ban anyone for any reason at anytimne.
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I asked Travis as I believe he does have children and to your point, it doesn't matter (possibly) whether there are young daughters or sons. Perhaps I've misunderstood his point as to the distinction between "free man" and safe to the public.
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I asked Travis as I believe he does have children and to your point, it doesn't matter (possibly) whether there are young daughters or sons. No. I don't want them living near me or in my community (although I've never lived anywhere they didn't) but if society says they're safe enough to be free, they should be afforded the same rights as everybody else. Now if you're asking if I think they should be free? No. I don't. Travis
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...sex offenders are handy people to know... Jayzus!
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You have to be a serious turd in Georgia to be a felon, you have negotiations prior to plea, then the First Offender Act and Conditional Discharge Statute opportunities to avail yourself of.
Then there remains a possibilty of having your record expunged or restricted as they call it now after you successfully complete Parole or Probation..
So yes I don't want Felons in my gun club.
Mike So you have no probem giving up your right to privacy and giving your gun club/range your social security number, DL number,address, date of birth etc? Since in most states felons cannot own or possess firearms, do you really think they are going to flaunt their guns at a public shooting range where half the members may be leo? Wow lol. No I give my info the Georgia Bureau of Investigations and they tell Probate Court Judge "OK" and they mail me my Concealed Carry Permit. I show the card to the gun club and it's filed along with my application. Mike
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And no I don't think most would attempt to join anyway but y'all asked the question about gun clubs.
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I asked Travis as I believe he does have children and to your point, it doesn't matter (possibly) whether there are young daughters or sons. No. I don't want them living near me or in my community (although I've never lived anywhere they didn't) but if society says they're safe enough to be free, they should be afforded the same rights as everybody else. Now if you're asking if I think they should be free? No. I don't. Travis "Society" has no say in their release and we have no way to measure rehabilitation. So my point is not all "free men" should be given the same rights (gun ownership) as you and I if they have a history of violence toward others. If they want o hurt themselves......so be it. Folks with a history of robbery, for example, are released all the time with no intention of changing their behavior and use incarceration to fine hone their skills and network with like minded folks.
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Sure glad I live in Montana and do not have to go through all that crap to shoot at the range.
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"Range" ? I thought you guys just shot up street signs..............
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"Range" ? I thought you guys just shot up street signs.............. They do that too but not so much around here. I haven't seen a shot up sign in a long time.
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I asked Travis as I believe he does have children and to your point, it doesn't matter (possibly) whether there are young daughters or sons. Perhaps I've misunderstood his point as to the distinction between "free man" and safe to the public. Okay, yes, don't introduce them to your sons either. Sorry, I thought that'd be obvious.
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Difference between gun club (private) and Range (public) We have had convicts take guns to pawn shops and then get new felony charge of possessing firearm by convicted felon It's not the smartest individuals we are dealing with sometimes. Mike
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Well our range is a public private range I guess. I purchase a membership, which includes a key to the locked gate, every year. It's a family membership which in my case includes the wife only. We also have 7-day guest passes that allows a guest to go with a full fledged member to the range for up to 7 days.
The range is owned by a non-profit sportsmen's association although the land is leased from the Forest Service.
I have no idea of what this makes us. A public private range, private public range?
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"Society" has no say in their release and we have no way to measure rehabilitation. So my point is not all "free men" should be given the same rights (gun ownership) as you and I if they have a history of violence toward others. If they want o hurt themselves......so be it. Folks with a history of robbery, for example, are released all the time with no intention of changing their behavior and use incarceration to fine hone their skills and network with like minded folks.
Gun control is stupid and ineffective. I don't care what demographic you try to apply it to. Travis
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I agree with regards to civil, law abiding citizens who conduct themselves accordingly. At least you are honest about being OK with criminals maintaining weapons so they are free to go about their business as well.
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