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Well then Snyper, what time of flight do the people who care find acceptable? You tell me, unless you don't care I ought to know better, but... Time of flight isn't the limiting variable for me. Confidence regarding windage holds me back before a sub second time of flight ever will. There are many variables, and none of them make shooting past 500 yds a good idea most of the time
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Killer rig dude! Who painted that cock on the side of it for you?
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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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hmmm
Seems we have some reluctance to answer the question. The answer to the question was in my first post, and you agreed with it in yours when you said: 700 yards is my personal max range based on my range performance (and I'm actually a lot more comfortable with 500 and under)
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Killer rig dude! Who painted that cock on the side of it for you? Travis You really should sober up
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I think it shows he's a keen observer of wildlife. And knows that a bedded deer won't move.
Most bedded deer eventually get up, which disproves your theory It's not a theory, provided you pull the trigger while they're still lying down.
They can still move, but you're right about one thing. It's not a theory that they "don't move." It's a falsehood, and you just hope they won't move [/quote] Snyper, has anyone ever told you you're an idiot? Sorry, stupid question, let me re-phrase that: You're an idiot. If a deer is bedded and not moving, and your bullet takes well under a second to get there (thanks Canazes, good answer) what do you think the chances of the deer moving such that your bullet misses the vitals are?
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what do you think the chances of the deer moving such that your bullet misses the vitals are? A deer can move enough in half a second to make it a wound instead of a kill. Calling me an idiot won't change that fact, and just makes you look immature
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hmmm
Seems we have some reluctance to answer the question. The answer to the question was in my first post, and you agreed with it in yours when you said: 700 yards is my personal max range based on my range performance (and I'm actually a lot more comfortable with 500 and under) Yardage is a distance, not a time. I gave examples of what I was comfortable with, not what I think anybody else should be comfortable with. I've no doubt that some of the better shooters could make shots at 700+ in field conditions that I could not at 1/2 that distance or less. David
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Yardage is a distance, not a time.
I gave examples of what I was comfortable with, not what I think anybody else should be comfortable with. I've no doubt that some of the better shooters could make shots at 700+ in field conditions that I could not at 1/2 that distance or less.
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It only took you a minute to match the times and distances Don't you think I know how to do that too? Ballistics calulators are everywhere and are simple to use I don't really care what "some" are capable of. The fact they gat lucky once in a while doesn't make it a good idea Reality is MOST aren't nearly as good as they claim to be, and MOST shouldn't be shooting beyond 500 on their best days.
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Killer rig dude! Who painted that cock on the side of it for you? Travis You really should sober up KILLER rig... Travis
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All this talk of what could happen in long range shooting is aggravating. Sure something could go amiss, but the stick and stick crowd cripple and loose more animals than any group.. I have notes from one of their seminar's... It was sickening to hear how long it would take an animal that was well hit to die... I know several long range shooters.. Their animals hit the ground quickly, and at long distance, they can quick put in another hit if need be.
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Great discussion guys..I'm really learning a lot, thanks!
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The funny thing is, bowhunters today are also "long range" shooters. I remember when 40yds was considered a long shot. Now I hear constant stories of 65yd+ shots on game with a bow.
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Yardage is a distance, not a time.
I gave examples of what I was comfortable with, not what I think anybody else should be comfortable with. I've no doubt that some of the better shooters could make shots at 700+ in field conditions that I could not at 1/2 that distance or less.
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It only took you a minute to match the times and distances Don't you think I know how to do that too? Ballistics calulators are everywhere and are simple to use I don't really care what "some" are capable of. The fact they gat lucky once in a while doesn't make it a good idea Reality is MOST aren't nearly as good as they claim to be, and MOST shouldn't be shooting beyond 500 on their best days. Again you still haven't answered the question. While I'm pleased that you are capable of matching your maximum distance with your load on a ballistics calculator and deducing time of flight, we don't know what that time is because you haven't shared any of that information in this thread. David
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what do you think the chances of the deer moving such that your bullet misses the vitals are? A deer can move enough in half a second to make it a wound instead of a kill. Calling me an idiot won't change that fact, and just makes you look immature You're right, I shouldn't have called you an idiot. If you think a bedded deer can move enough in a half second to cause a miss, you're actually a moron.
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I wonder how much game snyper has killed over 300 yards. Usually the most experienced LR hunters are the least vocal on these forums, and visa versa...
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All this talk of what could happen in long range shooting is aggravating. Sure something could go amiss, but the stick and stick crowd cripple and loose more animals than any group.. I have notes from one of their seminar's... It was sickening to hear how long it would take an animal that was well hit to die... I know several long range shooters.. Their animals hit the ground quickly, and at long distance, they can quick put in another hit if need be. What happens in bowhunting has nothing to do with this The fact you "know several long range shooters" is just as meaningless No one ever brags about the missed or wounded game Saying they can get a quick second shot BECAUSE it's a long way off makes no sense at all
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Yardage is a distance, not a time.
I gave examples of what I was comfortable with, not what I think anybody else should be comfortable with. I've no doubt that some of the better shooters could make shots at 700+ in field conditions that I could not at 1/2 that distance or less.
David
It only took you a minute to match the times and distances Don't you think I know how to do that too? Ballistics calulators are everywhere and are simple to use I don't really care what "some" are capable of. The fact they get lucky once in a while doesn't make it a good idea Reality is MOST aren't nearly as good as they claim to be, and MOST shouldn't be shooting beyond 500 on their best days. Again you still haven't answered the question. While I'm pleased that you are capable of matching your maximum distance with your load on a ballistics calculator and deducing time of flight, we don't know what that time is because you haven't shared any of that information in this thread. David I gave an answer twice already The time is similar to what you posted, as it is with most hunting loads. Focus more on the point of what I said: Reality is MOST aren't nearly as good as they claim to be, and MOST shouldn't be shooting beyond 500 on their best days.
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Snapper, if you KNEW just half as much as you think you do, you'd be worth the bandwidth. Unfortunately, you don't. Move along and let the hunters and shooters discuss.
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I I gave an answer twice already The time is similar to what you posted, as it is with most hunting loads.
Focus more on the point of what I said: Reality is MOST aren't nearly as good as they claim to be, and MOST shouldn't be shooting beyond 500 on their best days.
I see no reason to focus on the talking points of someone that doesn't possess a rudimentary understanding of the subject at hand. David
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One must take in to account that the B C azzholes on their high horse are the same bunch that take points deductions for an animals rack if every point is not the same. I believe they are all perfect .
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