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Too bad you don't have a computer keypad to make a contructive comment...

I am not going to read the whole thread, but I opened it expecting to read about some new kind of hammer with which you can shoot people. I want one.

Well, I applied my own "reasonable" clause to the situation.

If the decedent would have approached me with the sledgehammer in the fashion he did, I would have shot him.

As people here have insisted police be given no more or less consideration than John Q, I would have to conclude that the cop should have shot him as well.

Next.

I'd have shot him.

Without a doubt.

Really?

Then it should be easy for you to list a dozen confrontations between a Peace Officer and a weapon wielding assailant and let the board members decide if the Peace Officers used unnecessary deadly force in defense of their own life, or an innocent 3rd person's life.

At the end of my day, folks ought to avoid attacking others with hammers.
Or, failing that, expect to be shot...

Boneheaded response.

A "weapon wielding assailant" doesn't rhyme with "completely innocent", now does it?

As far as "the board members", seems like most of you cops have determined that THIS cop was justified [surprise, surprise], a few non-cops think that given the circumstances, he should not have feared for his life, and a couple of us think a Grand Jury should decide.

Glad to have you back posting, Barney.

Every death caused by another (homicide) in the State of Texas goes before a Grand Jury. Other States may, or may not, do the same. I don't think anybody said "He was justified.", although they may have. There is a lot more information out there than can be gleaned from from a news article. There always is. I know what I said...if I get after you with my hog maul you would be justified.

I have reason to believe that the FIVE posts grouped with mine were made by LEO's. Without exception, they justify the shooting based on the info in this thread.

No....... you are not in that group.

I just want one of these hammers that you can shoot people with. This thread fails to deliver.

I wonder how many of the police critics would like to be put in the situations faced by officers. Forced to defend their life then second guessed and forced to defend their actions. Monday morning quarterbacks and armchair commandos who have never tried to control a violent resisting perp ought to give it a try. Come at me with a hammer you may get one drop the weapon if you are not too close. This war against police needs to stop.

Ditto

The critics expect police to be/act superhuman in such instance. They, the critics, would certainly shoot anybody attacking them with a hammer, but they'd be justified because they're not wearing a badge which is supposed to give a man/woman superhuman powers of survival, decision making, and give them courage to stupidly risk their own lives to save that of someone attacking them. They also seem to forget that an officer has a duty to perform certain tasks that the average citizen can choose to shrink from. The officer is charged not only with protecting himself, but others, AND ultimately has to take in to custody those that threaten either. The average citizen can simply choose retreat, and has no duty (normally) to protect anybody but themselves.

Of course the foregoing will be misconstrued by some to mean I'm giving blanket defense and alibi to all officers and their actions, since that stance best serves their agenda, like making the idiotic statement "that many completely innocent people are killed by police officers."

I don't care if a person gets shot in these situations, they had MANY opportunities to avoid that result even long before the cops arrived. Due to their bad decision process (repeated over and over) a cop was forced to make an emergency decision.

Thanks! LMAO!

OK, point taken. Please link us to say...a dozen media accounts of "innocent people" being murdered by a Peace Officer.

I anxiously await your reply.

Not.

OrangeOkie: I agree with you 100% - NICE shooting there "police officer!
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

The guy was mentally ill. The police knew the guy was mentally ill before they ever showed up on the scene. If I had a gun on a mentally ill person and they were approaching me with a hammer, I'd back away...even run away if necessary, to at least try and keep from killing the man. Norman Police officers also have tasers...I've pulled plenty of taser barbs out of people who the Norman Police brought into the ER to have em' removed.

No.

The Peace Officer is also responsible for protecting the innocent people who might be in the area from the deranged individual. Backing away was not an option. He had to stop the guy before he had his head crushed or the EDP turned on someone else. Tasers don't always work; they're especially ineffective against the EDPs. I was tasered annually as part of my certification to carry one on duty. If you tasered me and believed the fight was over you'd have made a fatal mistake.