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You have to be out of your gourde to kill because it is a gang initiation.
Well most of those bangers will do their best to get away after their act of cowardice, what did Holmes do? He walked out into the parking lot and sat down. Bundy did his killing for his own gratification, as did Kemper and Manson, any clue at all why the vet killed Kyle or why the theater shooter would dress up as the joker? I think there is a difference between those who kill because they are extreme Psychopaths, which is different than the guy who thinks he is the Joker in a Batman movie. But as I said, this is mostly discussion, either way their lives are over, stick a needle in them, or drug them until they drool, their lives are over. I think in most cases I would hear out the families, hear what they need for closure or honor their request for forgiveness. Joker isn't going anywhere.
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That white spot in chicken shiet is still chicken shiet.
"Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"
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That white spot in chicken shiet is still chicken shiet. But some chicken schitt is all white. Don't ask me what that means, I don't have an answer for you, I just thought it sounded witty, so I through it out there.
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I can tell you that defending a murderer can drive a serious wedge in a relationship.
"Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"
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Why imprison a person who cannot be rehabilitated to where he can be released back into society? The death penalty seems appropriate to me in this case. We'd be listening to the same arguments in the Adam Lanza case were it not for him having chosen the cowards way out by committing suicide. Both were coherent enough to make and carry out plans for their evil deeds and should not be allowed to hide behind the insanity defense. Very good point
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In answer to the OP's question, yes, he should be executed.
If it were up to me, the State would not ask for the victims' families' opinions on the matter.
If it were up to me, insanity would be an argument in favor of death, not against.
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We still have a moral obligation to treat everyone with decency. I agree with your premise, yet come to exactly the opposite conclusion using your own logic. Life in prison sentenced to rot for life is not a "moral decency." Execution is far less barbaric than life in prison. He needs to be held accountable according to the laws of Colorado and judged by a jury of his peers and sentenced accordingly. We are a nation of laws. Y'all would have him executed without due process. Absolutely agree with that. If found guilty, he should be given the death penalty, and that penalty should not take a decade to carry out either. That is not "moral decency."
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NO! Burned at the stake 3 days of Comanche conversation Drawn and quartered Pegged down over a fire ant mound Slowly immersed in sulfuric acid... SLOWLY
but not just executed...
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I can tell you that defending a murderer can drive a serious wedge in a relationship. Uh-oh.
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"Only Christ is the fullness of God's revelation." Everyday Hunter
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"Have you ever tried to institutionalize somebody over the age of 18? If you have, and you succeeded, my hats off to you." Therein is the problem... Most of the massacres are those who in the past were sent to a State Hospital when it was recognized as being a danger to themselves and others. Now we have unmedicated and under medicated paranoid lunatics with access to guns. Here's one example of how little we've learned: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockton_schoolyard_shootingThis was in 1989. Why wasn't he in prison or a mental institution?
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YES! And I might add it should be televised on every channel like the state of the union address and shouldn't be sensored in any way.
Eating fried chicken and watermelon since 1972.
You tell me how I ought to be, yet you don't even know your own sexuality,, the philosopher,,, you know so much about nothing at all. Chuck Schuldiner
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Campfire Oracle
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I can tell you that defending a murderer can drive a serious wedge in a relationship. Uh-oh. Uh-oh what?
"Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"
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It is for the jury to decode after they hear the facts. In CO the judge imposes the sentence.
A wise man is frequently humbled.
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In answer to the question raised by the OP:
Absolutely.
Immediately if not sooner.
Lady justice does not hold a sword for walking stick.
"The number one problem with America is, a whole lot of people need shot, and nobody is shooting them." -Master Chief Hershel Davis
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In answer to the OP's question, yes, he should be executed.
If it were up to me, the State would not ask for the victims' families' opinions on the matter.
If it were up to me, insanity would be an argument in favor of death, not against.
I completely agree with each of your points. Well said.
"The number one problem with America is, a whole lot of people need shot, and nobody is shooting them." -Master Chief Hershel Davis
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Be afraid,be VERY VERY afraid ad triarios redisse My Buddy eh76 speaks authentic Frontier Gibberish!
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As far as the insanity defense, he fails the test. He planned his atrocity over several months. If he was really so goofy that he just thought he was a character in a movie, and didn't realize what he was doing was wrong, he couldn't have kept it a secret over that time. He knew it was wrong, and that's the crux.
A wise man is frequently humbled.
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In a single word......YES!
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Every man should have his day in court. Should take 2 - 3 days. Then take him out back and hang him. Hang 'em high !
"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much" Teddy Roosevelt
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