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They just want to help people, catch bad guys or in the case of the narcissists...have power. We know the public is largely supportive of us and that the dickheads who don't are in the super minority. But lurking on the roads and writing traffic tickets to commuters isn't helping people or catching bad guys. It's simply generating revenue for the government. Expired plates, no seat belt, 10 mph over the speed limit, etc.. If cops came across to working people/taxpayers as simply wanting to help people and catch bad guys, I think a lot of the public perception of cops from those folks in particular would be way more positive than it is. And do you have any idea just how many "big" cases come from simple traffic stops? I've recovered stolen firearms, made countless narcotics and DUI arrests, not to mention warrant arrests. Hell we picked up a guy wanted for murder in Ca on a traffic stop Then if you stop somebody on a simple traffic stop, and it's not a 'big' case...and you don't recover stolen firearms, and you don't make a narcotic or DUI arrest, and you don't pick up a guy wanted for murder...then why don't ya' just let em' go without writing them a ticket...? Generally I do...I haven't written a ticket in 6 months. And that was the first one in over a year, aside from tickets that resulted in arrests
The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude
Whatever. Tell the oompa loompa's hey for me. [/quote]. LtPPowell
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You proved my point by being the exception.
I'm bettin' you don't jack people up or arrest them on bogus charges, and part of that just might be due to your time on the receiving end.
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Curdog your ignorance is constantly on display. If you think cops are immune to mistreatment by other cops you have never worked under some of the superiors and politicians that real cops are forced to have as "leadership".
mike r
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Stab them in the taint, you can't put a tourniquet on that. Craig Douglas ECQC
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Then if you stop somebody on a simple traffic stop, and it's not a 'big' case...and you don't recover stolen firearms, and you don't make a narcotic or DUI arrest, and you don't pick up a guy wanted for murder...then why don't ya' just let em' go without writing them a ticket...? Generally I do...I haven't written a ticket in 6 months. And that was the first one in over a year, aside from tickets that resulted in arrests Good for you brother. Seriously. I wish more of em' were like you in those regards.
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Curdog your ignorance is constantly on display. If you think cops are immune to mistreatment by other cops you have never worked under some of the superiors and politicians that real cops are forced to have as "leadership".
mike r Look, Little Mikey, this makes twice you've responded to a post I've made, and both times your response misses the point of my post entirely. And both times, you've called ME ignorant. There are some grown-up cops participating on this thread. Your reading comprehension score won't be nearly as low if you'll just go off and play with Derby Dude.
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A lot of bad guys are caught from traffic stops, as are drugs. Sometimes even shoot outs and tussles are generated from traffic stops.
Merry Christmas and a Happy GFY. I hated writing traffic tickets and doing accident reports but some things have to be done to keep some semblance of order and prove to the Lt's you weren't just chasing the girls or hanging out at the Kwik Trip. But, with some diligence a lot of interesting and exciting things come from a simple traffic stop. kwg Yep, keeping civilians in line is all that matters as shown here: http://www.statesman.com/news/news/tab-for-wrongful-convictions-in-texas-65-million-a/nWLQM/
"My message to my troops is if you see anybody carrying a gun on the streets of Milwaukee, we'll put them on the ground, take the gun away and then decide whether you have a right to carry it." - Milwaukee Police Chief Ed Flynn
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I'll bet the majority of cops are. Hell I got stopped last week. I was in a hurry and had a rental car. Not paying attention and was definitely going like hell. Saw the flashing lights, pulled over turned the interior light on, placed my hands on the steering wheel until the officer walked up. He said hello "I said I was probably going a bit to fast, i'm sorry. I have to work later tonight and just wasn't paying attention". Hsi response to me was thank you for your honesty, you just set the tone for how this interaction is going to go. He asked for my license and reg. I said sir This is a rental i'm not sure there is a registration but i'll look(there was) then I said Sir, I have a pistol permit and am carrying, it's on my right hip, my wallet is in my right back pocket i'm going to reach back and get my wallet I just want you to be aware of the firearm. He said thank you for being honest. I handed him my licnese and asked him how much the fine would be. He said nonticket, just a warning and thanked me for being polite and responding the way I did....but that's about how every encounter with LE i've had had gone...
The flip side is the entire hob scope of some cops is to enforce traffic laws, and the most objective way to do that is to write everyone you stop. You can't hold it a gainst the man for doing his job.
The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude
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That's kinda what I do, but it doesn't always work. I got stopped just turning on to I10 from Tallahassee in a rental that I had to bring back from Miami. I was speeding. I asked the trooper if I was stopped for my [bleep] driving or if it was an interdiction stop. (hint,hint) I guess he was one of those nerds I mentioned earlier...I got the ticket. (And yes, I was working.)
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Pat unless i'm out of state or around my Geographical area of Employment, I don't even carry my badge. I try not to wven hint at what I do. I've had to answer to the chief for a couple tickets. One really stupid one was I got checked by USFWS. And had forgotten to sign my duck stamp.
The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude
Whatever. Tell the oompa loompa's hey for me. [/quote]. LtPPowell
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Curdog, little mikey here.If you don't want to be regarded as ignorant upgrade the quality of your spiel. The reality you have problems recognizing is that w/out the "rough men" on the walls you, and those like you, would be subject to having the cannibals making your nutsacks into very small purses.
mike r
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Stab them in the taint, you can't put a tourniquet on that. Craig Douglas ECQC
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I started at 22. By that time I had built and owned my own house and was married and had a son. With five years of industrial construction experience behind me.
Age can help, college can help, but that doesn't hardly tell the whole story of a person's life or attitude or ability.
your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling
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The flip side is the entire job scope of some cops is to enforce traffic laws, and the most objective way to do that is to write everyone you stop. You can't hold it against the man for doing his job. Those guys in particular are pricks and a$$holes. If you can do your job without being that way, then so can they. They're not helping people or catching bad guys. And those types deserve whatever hell the working public/taxpayers give em'. They 'choose' to be that way...and we can 'choose' to hold it against them.
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I was hired at 20. Out of college, had put myself theough the academy and worked full time running heavy equipment.
The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude
Whatever. Tell the oompa loompa's hey for me. [/quote]. LtPPowell
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The flip side is the entire job scope of some cops is to enforce traffic laws, and the most objective way to do that is to write everyone you stop. You can't hold it against the man for doing his job. Those guys in particular are pricks and a$$holes. If you can do your job without being that way, then so can they. They're not helping people or catching bad guys. And those types deserve whatever hell the working public/taxpayers give em'. They 'choose' to be that way...and we can 'choose' to hold it against them. They are a prick and an azzhole just because they wrote you a ticket?
The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude
Whatever. Tell the oompa loompa's hey for me. [/quote]. LtPPowell
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They are a prick and an azzhole just because they wrote you a ticket? Yep.
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I've felt that way for every ticket I've ever had.
your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling
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They are a prick and an azzhole just because they wrote you a ticket? Yep. So then you must have been a prick and an azzhole that did something to warrant the ticket. Otherwise you just wouldn't have been stopped
The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude
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The flip side is the entire job scope of some cops is to enforce traffic laws, and the most objective way to do that is to write everyone you stop. Actually, you clarified them being pricks and a$$holes by your objective statement above. That's a whole different job scope than helping people and catching bad guys.
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They are a prick and an azzhole just because they wrote you a ticket? Yep. So then you must have been a prick and an azzhole that did something to warrant the ticket. Otherwise you just wouldn't have been stopped Yeah, those 'big crimes' like expired plate, no seatbelt, 10 mph over the speed limit, etc.. Real prick and a$$hole stuff. Real bad guy stuff.
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Just because someone is doing their job does not make them a prick or an azzhole
I know troopers who work traffic and have one of the above "traffic" jobs. They write everybody they stop. But you've really fugged up if they stop you. One i know won't stop for a speed less than 70 in a 55 and 80 in a 65...
The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude
Whatever. Tell the oompa loompa's hey for me. [/quote]. LtPPowell
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