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BTW, we are talking precision bullets and precision rifles here Rambo... Not AR's stuffed with FMJs...
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Sorry, I guess that other physics book applies to those.
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you really havent got the first clue,do you?
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you really havent got the first clue,do you? N-I-G-G-E-R please!
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went to not knowing how long a long action is to a ballistician right before our eyes.TFF
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....... ]photobucket[/url]
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And don't forget Master Physicist to boot.... Jackoff of all trades...
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I never would've known that backing a bullet off the lands decreased pressure. Is that why they make them thar case trimmin' things? A little case mouth jammed into the leade don't hurt nothin', right?
Still trying to figure out what in the actual [bleep] one has to do with the other here..are you just regurgitating everything you've ever read hoping you get something right? If so, it aint workin out for you..But do keep trying, its pretty funny.
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And don't forget Master Physicist to boot.... Jackoff of all trades...
You must be an English or Sociology major, you have such a way with words.
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I never would've known that backing a bullet off the lands decreased pressure. Is that why they make them thar case trimmin' things? A little case mouth jammed into the leade don't hurt nothin', right?
Still trying to figure out what in the actual [bleep] one has to do with the other here..are you just regurgitating everything you've ever read hoping you get something right? You are one stupid SOB BTW, I dated a girl that named my dick Rosco
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Yes, its obvious i'm the stupid one here lmao.
Going straight to cock talk was the only move you had.
We would all still like to know what case trim length has to do with this discussion.. Hint, a case to the lands vs a bullet in the lands is like comparing apples and aardvarks
A little more on how moving the bullet away from the lands increases pressure please,thanks!
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In the spring/summer (2014) when I first got a box of brass I necked up the 26 Nosler to .284", .308", .338" & .375" and seated the heavies for each caliber in order to determine case capacity impact of each bullet... It was easy to see that this case will work great with the lighter bullets ( what's the point ? ) the heavier high bc bullets were shoved deep into the case when seated to the max cartridge overall length of 3.340" ....... in all bullet diameters from .264" to .375" in the interest of full use of powder capacity..... the only route to go is the RUM action .... In that event, I would rather go with the RUM case , I abandoned my 26 Nosler wildcats project (another dude on LRH continued and is doing them all) I went back to the 300 Norma and 338 Norma Mag case for my wildcats as it was much better suited for the long high bc bullets in each caliber without case capacity loss and still cycle in AICS cip length detachable mags ... all bullets seated to 3.650" from left to right .... 26 Nosler 160 gr Matrix VLD Bonded 28 Nosler 180 gr Berger VLD Hunting 30 Nosler 230 gr W3PS TAC PM RBT 33 Nosler 300 gr Berger VLD Hunting 37 Nosler 320 gr Cutting Edge Match Tactical Hunting ]photobucket[/url]
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It was easy to see that this case will work great with the lighter bullets ( what's the point ? ) the heavier high bc bullets were shoved deep into the case when seated to the max cartridge overall length of 3.340" .......
in all bullet diameters from .264" to .375" in the interest of full use of powder capacity. Cool experiment..But I dont exactly follow your logic..Why keep them at 3.340"? long action rem is a long action rem, RUM or '06..throat the barrel to kiss your longest bullet at under 3.6 and your golden. you can get an extended mag to 3.7 without going CFE or DBM,with hardly any modifications needed..AICS allows over 3.6 also? I can't see not going with a RUM or lapua/Norma hull if using a DBM on a heavy long range platform.you have the space so why not.
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Why keep them at 3.340"? long action rem is a long action rem, RUM or '06..throat the barrel to kiss your longest bullet at under 3.6 and your golden. you can get an extended mag to 3.7 without going CFE or DBM,with hardly any modifications needed..
3.340" is Noslers selling point and it seems that every Hairy Dick Tom is enthralled with the ridiculous notion that there is something superior to the stupid "30-06 length" fantasy ... I agree that this case is better off loaded with bullets seated out for max case capacity .. at least that way you can recreate 6.5 STW, 7mm STW, 300 WBY, 340 WBY & 375 WBY velocities the requirements I had for my wildcat was not produced by the 26 Nosler case..... the 300 Norma Mag case was the obvious choice ...... allowed for a longer neck, shorter cartridge length, more powder capacity to duplicate 7mm RUM velocities and easily fit in 5 rnd AICS mags and 6 rnd Accurate mags ..... best of all is the use of Lapua made 423 Dakota brass and cut down 338 Lapua brass along with the 300 & 338 Norma brass .... ]photobucket[/url]
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No logic in your reply, you stil haven't stated why the bullet should not be seated below the neck shoulder junction.
I didn't say there was anything WRONG with doing so, other than taking up powder space, but having 100% the bullets bearing surface in contact with the case neck isn't something I need "science" to figure out is a good idea. I'm talking optimum, not make do here. For every 10% increases in case capacity, at the same pressure there is only a 2 1/2 % increase in velocity. A bullet seated below the neck shoulder junction doesn't reduce case capacity enough to matter and that is a fact.
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Why keep them at 3.340"? long action rem is a long action rem, RUM or '06..throat the barrel to kiss your longest bullet at under 3.6 and your golden. you can get an extended mag to 3.7 without going CFE or DBM,with hardly any modifications needed..
3.340" is Noslers selling point and it seems that every Hairy Dick Tom is enthralled with the ridiculous notion that there is something superior to the stupid "30-06 length" fantasy ... I agree that this case is better off loaded with bullets seated out for max case capacity .. at least that way you can recreate 6.5 STW, 7mm STW, 300 WBY, 340 WBY & 375 WBY velocities the requirements I had for my wildcat was not produced by the 26 Nosler case..... the 300 Norma Mag case was the obvious choice ...... allowed for a longer neck, shorter cartridge length, more powder capacity to duplicate 7mm RUM velocities and easily fit in 5 rnd AICS mags and 6 rnd Accurate mags ..... best of all is the use of Lapua made 423 Dakota brass and cut down 338 Lapua brass along with the 300 & 338 Norma brass .... ]photobucket[/url] granted , the fat Norma cases will get you the powder capacity and overall length you want , but is it advisable to run them in M-700 action ? not IMO.........
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Why keep them at 3.340"? long action rem is a long action rem, RUM or '06..throat the barrel to kiss your longest bullet at under 3.6 and your golden. you can get an extended mag to 3.7 without going CFE or DBM,with hardly any modifications needed..
3.340" is Noslers selling point and it seems that every Hairy Dick Tom is enthralled with the ridiculous notion that there is something superior to the stupid "30-06 length" fantasy ... I agree that this case is better off loaded with bullets seated out for max case capacity .. at least that way you can recreate 6.5 STW, 7mm STW, 300 WBY, 340 WBY & 375 WBY velocities the requirements I had for my wildcat was not produced by the 26 Nosler case..... the 300 Norma Mag case was the obvious choice ...... allowed for a longer neck, shorter cartridge length, more powder capacity to duplicate 7mm RUM velocities and easily fit in 5 rnd AICS mags and 6 rnd Accurate mags ..... best of all is the use of Lapua made 423 Dakota brass and cut down 338 Lapua brass along with the 300 & 338 Norma brass .... ]photobucket[/url] granted , the fat Norma cases will get you the powder capacity and overall length you want , but is it advisable to run them in M-700 action ? not IMO......... Nothing wrong with running them through the 700 action as long as the maker knows what he is doing. My 338 Laupa is on the 700 action.
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