i am afraid kaywoodie, you are always going to have toys i covet. i was looking at a 1873 winchester today in 44.40, you don't want to know the price tag.
Ron, that one belongs to a friend! I don't have anything crew served! Or that big and heavy!
key word, crew served, big and heavy. As apposed to ?????? you need to find me a rear buckhorn sight for a remington 141 by the way.
The WWII versions would not accept the drum mags of the 1921 and 1928, and were much more cheaply made.
The original Thompson/Blish design was WAY more complicated than any SMG needed to be. The M1 & M1A1 were not only significantly cheaper to manufacture, but they were significantly more reliable as well.
i am afraid kaywoodie, you are always going to have toys i covet. i was looking at a 1873 winchester today in 44.40, you don't want to know the price tag.
Ron, that one belongs to a friend! I don't have anything crew served! Or that big and heavy!
key word, crew served, big and heavy. As apposed to ?????? you need to find me a rear buckhorn sight for a remington 141 by the way.
Would if I could, Ron! I had to quit due to the current family situation!!!
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"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
One of my uncles carried and used a Thompson in France & Austria in '44 & '45, almost certainly an M1 or M1A1 so that's what I'd want.
One memorable line I recall: "We knew we were in for a fight, but I had a Thompson and I knew I could knock 'em over."
God rest his soul, not many like him left.
'Four legs good, two legs baaaad." ---------------------------------------------- "Jimmy, some of it's magic, Some of it's tragic, But I had a good life all the way." (Jimmy Buffett)
American 180 is a super fun SMG to shoot. A friend of mine had 3 of them, even one with the original laser sight that looked like a 2x4 slung under the barrel. The one with the laser sight was from some correctional facility, but I can't recall which.
I got to shoot one, it was way too much fun. He told me that there was something about them that could cause them to fire out of battery (he said that was why the correctional facility stopped using them), and one of his magazines was totaled when he blew a case. All I know is, that was one seriously fun SMG to shoot.
I'm not a big machinegun guy, but my first gunsmithing job ever was working on class 3 weapons, so I gained a few favorites.
I would take a brand new MG3 (current version of the MG-42); they are just so damn cool. Not the greatest LMG in the world, but it sure is the funnest I've ever shot. And that 4 second barrel change, that's just brilliant.
This....^^^
Or maybe a Mark 48....
Or even one of these. Though the whole electricty thing could be a problem....
It ain't what you don't know that makes you an idiot...it's what you know for certain, that just ain't so...
Most people don't want to believe the truth~they want the truth to be what they believe.
I just can't garner much love for the MP5. For a year I did LE sales and sold MP5's. They are a finicky be-otch of a sub gun, but they're easy and fun to shoot when they're running.
Doing a roller locking mechanism on a SMG is just a dip-chit idea...notice NO ONE copied that for a SMG.
But a closed bolt was rather forward thinking of H&K, since it's much easier to to learn to shoot a closed bolt SMG than an open bolt. And since they were really the fist to heavily market a closed bolt SMG, they grabbed up all the special ops teams and sewed up the market before anyone else had anything to offer.
The best of the closed bolt SMG's was the Colt 9mm M16. It had better ergonomics, better sights, better magazines, was easier to maintain, more reliable, just as accurate; pretty much better in every way.
But I never sold a Colt, because all the LE departments wanted the H&K before they even looked at them. Because that's what the SAS and FBI HRT used.
The M16 isn't an SMG, by definition. It wasn't designed around and to shoot a pistol cartridge. Was it modified from the original design to shoot a pistol cartridge? Yes. But it wasn't designed around that cartridge or any other pistol cartridge.
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.