There was an email sent from Georgetown University which claimed that Ms.Fluke is a lesbian.The sender claims that she has first hand knowledge of this because she,the sender,was intimate with Ms.Fluke.The sender went on to claim,that to her knowledge,Ms. Fluke has not been intimate with a man since she's been on campus.
This scenario begs several questions,if the claims made in this email are correct.How can Ms. Fluke have spent money on birth control when she obviously doesn't need it? Can she be prosecuted for lying to members of congress? Will the media ever do its job and investigate Ms.Fluke? OK so the last question was a pipe dream,as my dad would say.I still haven't figured out what that colloquialism means.LOL.
Please don't ask for some link to this story because it's just a rumor at this point.A rumor circulated by a former graduate,that is in touch with a student,who is currently matriculating at Georgetown.
Lieing to Congress. I hope they throw the book at her like they did to Eric Holder. This bunch is running Congress now. You guys put some queers in office to represent you now they own you. hahahaha
Tolerance brings and breeds more corruption. They need dealt with and you know what I mean when I say this. Your choice though you can tolerate them or dis them.
Do you left-wing ass-holes ever read the post or do you just pop off about your homo-promoting ideology.
First off,there has never been a scintilla of scientific evidence that homosexuality is innate.Tammy Bruce and Camile Paglia,both Democrats and lesbians,have made it perfectly clear that homosexuality is a lifestyle choice.
Secondly,her sexual deviancy is germane to her testimony and places in serious doubt the veracity of all her statements.Let me explain to you two brain dead ass-holes.Ms.Fluke stated that she may have to spend $3,000.00 to pay for her birth control.If she is a lesbian, then her claim for that expense is false.
Do you left-wing ass-holes ever read the post or do you just pop off about your homo-promoting ideology.
First off,there has never been a scintilla of scientific evidence that homosexuality is innate.Tammy Bruce and Camile Paglia,both Democrats and lesbians,have made it perfectly clear that homosexuality is a lifestyle choice.
Secondly,her sexual deviancy is germane to her testimony and places in serious doubt the veracity of all her statements.Let me explain to you two brain dead ass-holes.Ms.Fluke stated that she may to spend $3,000.00 to pay for her birth control.If she is a lesbian then her claim for that expense is false.
She has been put up by the Dem's to promote Obama Agenda on Birth Control and that the Tax Payers should pay for it. This is what it is all about and nothing else. She just forgot to mention to them she prefers to lick a twat instead of a Popsicle .
Do you left-wing ass-holes ever read the post or do you just pop off about your homo-promoting ideology.
First off,there has never been a scintilla of scientific evidence that homosexuality is innate.Tammy Bruce and Camile Paglia,both Democrats and lesbians,have made it perfectly clear that homosexuality is a lifestyle choice.
Secondly,her sexual deviancy is germane to her testimony and places in serious doubt the veracity of all her statements.Let me explain to you two brain dead ass-holes.Ms.Fluke stated that she may have to spend $3,000.00 to pay for her birth control.If she is a lesbian, then her claim for that expense is false.
First off, there is no "homo-promoting ideology" from me.
Second, I don't understand homosexuality, but to each, his own. I also think that Dick Cheney (former Vice President) believes that it is not a matter of choice as is daughter is lesbian and has adopted a child (I believe this is Cheney�s only grandchild).
Third (and I am not a doctor), Fluke said that the birth control pill (estrogen) is used to prevent or mitigate ovarian cysts. If this is correct, it is a medical prescription for a health issue.
To all the Jr. Einsteins and ostriches that stick their heads in the sand:
1.) You better care about gay and lesbian activism. Much of it involves money - your money in the form of tax dollars and where they will go. They will go for benefits of domestic partners, they will go to tolerance and re-education programs that promote acceptance. God forbid that homosexuality ever is considered genetic (God made them that way), because then all gays will be covered by the American with Disabilities Act. Homosexuals become untouchable in the work place, and will be offered special considerations and treatment. Failure to cater to them will open others up to legal action brought by the US Attorney General's Office.
2.) Oral Contraceptives are used to combat cramping, bleeding, and other symptoms associated with the menstrual cycle as well as for birth control. This biotch may not ever sleep with a man again, but wants someone else to pay for her pill to control her cramps.
If she doesn't like the cramps and bleeding, then she needs to pay for the meds, not me and you.
Do you left-wing ass-holes ever read the post or do you just pop off about your homo-promoting ideology.
First off,there has never been a scintilla of scientific evidence that homosexuality is innate.Tammy Bruce and Camile Paglia,both Democrats and lesbians,have made it perfectly clear that homosexuality is a lifestyle choice.
Secondly,her sexual deviancy is germane to her testimony and places in serious doubt the veracity of all her statements.Let me explain to you two brain dead ass-holes.Ms.Fluke stated that she may to spend $3,000.00 to pay for her birth control.If she is a lesbian then her claim for that expense is false.
She has been put up by the Dem's to promote Obama Agenda on Birth Control and that the Tax Payers should pay for it. This is what it is all about and nothing else. She just forgot to mention to them she prefers to lick a twat instead of a Popsicle .
Ahaaa haaaa. So it's "the Dem's to promote Obama Agenda on Birth Control and that the Tax Payers should pay for it." Now I get it and I guess it IS wrong.
Now, pray tell me, was it the Rebublicans who set up Viagra to promote a conservative agenda? After all, it is included in all (that I know of) health plans) and "the Tax Payers pay for it) through tax deductions.
And, if a man doesn't like his Erectile Dysfunction (ED), then he should pay for the Viagra himself and not burden the medical plans now offered and claim a tax deduction for the premiums? Agree?
Yes it is wrong to pay for Birth Control with Tax Payers money. Viagra is actually designed to treat a Medical Condition called Erectile Dysfunction and believe me it isn't cover by tax payer dollars and most insurance companies no longer pay for it . If you want it you pay out of your pocket for it.
Yes it is wrong to pay for Birth Control with Tax Payers money. Viagra is actually designed to treat a Medical Condition called Erectile Dysfunction and believe me it isn't cover by tax payer dollars.
If your medical expenses exceed the IRS limit (as a percentage of income), you can deduct any prescription and the tax payers therefore subsidize it.
I'm thinking not. It will when more libtards leave the WH and Congress.
The economic situation is global, not US confined. Until the global economy recovers, we are just going to wallow along with the rest of the world, regardless of who is president or who controls the congress.
Once the Greek/Italian/ Spanish, etc. debt crisis is resolved, I'm afraid we will make no progress.
Only if you have enough deduction to fill out the long form and a lot people don't . You can take up for the Dem's all you want , but they are the Party of buying votes through entitlement programs.
Only if you have enough deduction to fill out the long form and a lot people don't . You can take up for the Dem's all you want , but they are the Party of buying votes through entitlement programs.
Wasn't it the Bush Administration who greatly expanded Medicare's prescription drug benefit in 2006 (admittedly to win votes) in the 2006 election? It was admitted following the election that they know that this would add greatly to the deficit. When did George H. W. Bush become a Dem?
from djs: Third (and I am not a doctor), Fluke said that the birth control pill (estrogen) is used to prevent or mitigate ovarian cysts. If this is correct, it is a medical prescription for a health issue. I've heard that to be why SF takes the bc, to prevent the cyst from occuring in her. She did have a pretty big cyst when she discontinued the estrogen meds. Had that sucker cut off.
How is her name pronounced? I thought it "Flook". On the radio today Rush was pronouncing it like that until someone corrected him. Then he started pronouncing it "Fluck". Is she oriental? Did Rush get flucked?
from djs: Third (and I am not a doctor), Fluke said that the birth control pill (estrogen) is used to prevent or mitigate ovarian cysts. If this is correct, it is a medical prescription for a health issue. I've heard that to be why SF takes the bc, to prevent the cyst from occuring in her. She did have a pretty big cyst when she discontinued the estrogen meds. Had that sucker cut off.
Regardless she should have to pay for her Birth Control, not you and me. If you can afford to attend GeorgeTown University , you can afford to buy your own Birth Control Pills
Was there ever a doubt in anyones mind? POS was just another waste of taxpayer money and an attempt to divert attention away from serious problems. And all aided by the media.
Get used to these strawmen being given tons of coverage from now until election day. You really have to love the compassion shown by obozo when he called the lying POS to ask if she was OK. All the dead soldier's families get that call? How about the families of the boader patrol agents killed with DOJ supplied weapons? He's a pandering pos of the worst kind.
from djs: Third (and I am not a doctor), Fluke said that the birth control pill (estrogen) is used to prevent or mitigate ovarian cysts. If this is correct, it is a medical prescription for a health issue. I've heard that to be why SF takes the bc, to prevent the cyst from occuring in her. She did have a pretty big cyst when she discontinued the estrogen meds. Had that sucker cut off.
Regardless she should have to pay for her Birth Control, not you and me. If you can afford to attend GeorgeTown University , you can afford to buy your own Birth Control Pills
Was some bill passed due to her testimony that says you and I have to pay for it that I'm unaware of, or is everybody still howling about her "testimony" to only the dem members that was essentially meaningless?
from djs: Third (and I am not a doctor), Fluke said that the birth control pill (estrogen) is used to prevent or mitigate ovarian cysts. If this is correct, it is a medical prescription for a health issue. I've heard that to be why SF takes the bc, to prevent the cyst from occuring in her. She did have a pretty big cyst when she discontinued the estrogen meds. Had that sucker cut off.
Regardless she should have to pay for her Birth Control, not you and me. If you can afford to attend GeorgeTown University , you can afford to buy your own Birth Control Pills
Does that apply to women who work for mminimmum wages also?
Whether Sandra Fluke is gay, or asks for her meds to be free in essentially meaningless testimony vs. the $3.60 a gallon I paid for gas this morning, and the price of all the essential goods that is through the roof? Hmmmm, such a quandary on what to worry about more!
I agree, but somebody lying to Congress to extort even more money from us is going in the wrong direction as to turning the economy around.
Actually the economy has been getting more and more "fixed" all the time, what with "Free" Trade and stuff like not having to be able to take physical possession of the oil and whatnot. Just sayin'...
How is her name pronounced? I thought it "Flook". On the radio today Rush was pronouncing it like that until someone corrected him. Then he started pronouncing it "Fluck". Is she oriental? Did Rush get flucked?
Fluckin' A...
It's arr so confusing...GI.
She could start her own university...named after herself.
from djs: Third (and I am not a doctor), Fluke said that the birth control pill (estrogen) is used to prevent or mitigate ovarian cysts. If this is correct, it is a medical prescription for a health issue. I've heard that to be why SF takes the bc, to prevent the cyst from occuring in her. She did have a pretty big cyst when she discontinued the estrogen meds. Had that sucker cut off.
Regardless she should have to pay for her Birth Control, not you and me. If you can afford to attend GeorgeTown University , you can afford to buy your own Birth Control Pills
Does that apply to women who work for mminimmum wages also?
Is this her entire testimony? If so, based on the comments here, and by Rush, I bet NONE of you actually listened to it. Every word in that 11 minutes was hearsay, and anecdotal evidence about other people. If that's it, Rush Limbaugh was way off base and out of line, and so are most here when it comes to her personally, and the nature of her testimony.
from djs: Third (and I am not a doctor), Fluke said that the birth control pill (estrogen) is used to prevent or mitigate ovarian cysts. If this is correct, it is a medical prescription for a health issue. I've heard that to be why SF takes the bc, to prevent the cyst from occuring in her. She did have a pretty big cyst when she discontinued the estrogen meds. Had that sucker cut off.
Regardless she should have to pay for her Birth Control, not you and me. If you can afford to attend GeorgeTown University , you can afford to buy your own Birth Control Pills
Was some bill passed due to her testimony that says you and I have to pay for it that I'm unaware of, or is everybody still howling about her "testimony" to only the dem members that was essentially meaningless?
The Republicans have stepped into a pile of dog chit and want to blame everybody else for having done so.
This was a non-issue until apparently, Limbaugh put his big foot into his mouth. Now the Republicans in their perpetual stupidity are turning this non-issue into the defining issue of the election or at least the Republicans on the Fire are.
from djs: Third (and I am not a doctor), Fluke said that the birth control pill (estrogen) is used to prevent or mitigate ovarian cysts. If this is correct, it is a medical prescription for a health issue. I've heard that to be why SF takes the bc, to prevent the cyst from occurring in her. She did have a pretty big cyst when she discontinued the estrogen meds. Had that sucker cut off.
Regardless she should have to pay for her Birth Control, not you and me. If you can afford to attend GeorgeTown University , you can afford to buy your own Birth Control Pills
I agree with that, just saying she alleges she uses the bc meds for ovarian cyst prevention. I do believe that she is shilling for BO position to require bc pills be provided free by insurers. I don't understand free deal when you & me pays for the bc med through higher premiums or co-pays.
Is this her entire testimony? If so, based on the comments here, and by Rush, I bet NONE of you actually listened to it. Every word in that 11 minutes was hearsay, and anecdotal evidence about other people. If that's it, Rush Limbaugh was way off base and out of line, and so are most here when it comes to her personally, and the nature of her testimony.
You got it! A non-issue that the Republicans have made into a issue.
from djs: Third (and I am not a doctor), Fluke said that the birth control pill (estrogen) is used to prevent or mitigate ovarian cysts. If this is correct, it is a medical prescription for a health issue. I've heard that to be why SF takes the bc, to prevent the cyst from occuring in her. She did have a pretty big cyst when she discontinued the estrogen meds. Had that sucker cut off.
Regardless she should have to pay for her Birth Control, not you and me. If you can afford to attend GeorgeTown University , you can afford to buy your own Birth Control Pills
I agree with that, just saying she alledges she uses the bc meds for ovarian cyst prevgention. I do believe that she is shilling for BO position to require bc pills be provided free by insurers. I don't understand free deal when you & me pays for the bc med through higher premiums or co-pays.
Maybe I got distracted by something here at work while listening, but I didn't hear her say one word about herself, or what she uses. I definitely didn't hear her talking about her own sexuality or sexual practices. In fact one of the first things she said was she was there speaking for others.
Is this her entire testimony? If so, based on the comments here, and by Rush, I bet NONE of you actually listened to it. Every word in that 11 minutes was hearsay, and anecdotal evidence about other people. If that's it, Rush Limbaugh was way off base and out of line, and so are most here when it comes to her personally, and the nature of her testimony.
You got it! A non-issue that the Republicans have made into a issue.
It would also put in to question the listening and comprehension skills of most the people making most of the comments in these threads about her and her testimony.
1.) You better care about gay and lesbian activism. Much of it involves money - your money in the form of tax dollars and where they will go. They will go for benefits of domestic partners, they will go to tolerance and re-education programs that promote acceptance
My daughter moved in with a guy who worked for the mayor of Los Angles. On one occation she went to the doctor and turned a claim in to his insurance. She was denied on the basis that she was not a he. She was told if Louie was gay his lover would be covered.
from djs: Third (and I am not a doctor), Fluke said that the birth control pill (estrogen) is used to prevent or mitigate ovarian cysts. If this is correct, it is a medical prescription for a health issue. I've heard that to be why SF takes the bc, to prevent the cyst from occuring in her. She did have a pretty big cyst when she discontinued the estrogen meds. Had that sucker cut off.
Regardless she should have to pay for her Birth Control, not you and me. If you can afford to attend GeorgeTown University , you can afford to buy your own Birth Control Pills
I agree with that, just saying she alledges she uses the bc meds for ovarian cyst prevgention. I do believe that she is shilling for BO position to require bc pills be provided free by insurers. I don't understand free deal when you & me pays for the bc med through higher premiums or co-pays.
Maybe I got distracted by something here at work while listening, but I didn't hear her say one word about herself, or what she uses. I definitely didn't hear her talking about her own sexuality or sexual practices. In fact one of the first things she said was she was there speaking for others.
From the conservative Washington Examiner newspaper, here is the story of what she actually said (how many have read what she said?): see: acqua indiglo watch
From the conservative Washington Examiner newspaper, here is the story of what she actually said (how many have read what she said?): see: acqua indiglo watch
From the conservative Washington Examiner newspaper, here is the story of what she actually said (how many have read what she said?): see: acqua indiglo watch
Yeah, calling her a slut, and calling her sexual orientation in to issue after this testimony...dumb. Completely wrongheaded, and served, like derby dude said, to do nothing other than get her more face time to further her agenda, which may be as some have stated, an Obama plant, or may simply like her past, as a women's right advocate. I can't see insurance or government money paying for contraception for the sake of contraception, but I can see it when that medicine can prevent or lessen the effects of other health issues like the polycistic ovarian stuff she spoke about, which was the bulk of what she talked about.
Here is the transcript:
My name is Sandra Fluke, and I�m a third-year student at Georgetown Law School. I�m also a past-president of Georgetown Law Students for Reproductive Justice or LSRJ. And I�d like to acknowledge my fellow LSRJ members and allies and all of the student activists with us and thank them so much for being here today.
(Applause)
We, as Georgetown LSRJ, are here today because we�re so grateful that this regulation implements the non-partisan medical advice of the Institute of Medicine.
I attend a Jesuit law school that does not provide contraceptive coverage in its student health plan. And just as we students have faced financial, emotional, and medical burdens as a result, employees at religiously-affiliated hospitals and institutions and universities across the country have suffered similar burdens.
We are all grateful for the new regulation that will meet the critical health care needs of so many women.
Simultaneously, the recently announced adjustment addresses any potential conflict with the religious identity of Catholic or Jesuit institutions.
When I look around my campus, I see the faces of the women affected by this lack of contraceptive coverage.
And especially in the last week, I have heard more and more of their stories. On a daily basis, I hear yet from another woman from Georgetown or from another school or who works for a religiously-affiliated employer, and they tell me that they have suffered financially and emotionally and medically because of this lack of coverage.
And so, I�m here today to share their voices, and I want to thank you for allowing them � not me � to be heard.
Without insurance coverage, contraception, as you know, can cost a woman over $3,000 during law school. For a lot of students who, like me, are on public interest scholarships, that�s practically an entire summer�s salary. 40% of the female students at Georgetown Law reported to us that they struggle financially as a result of this policy.
One told us about how embarrassed and just powerless she felt when she was standing at the pharmacy counter and learned for the first time that contraception was not covered on her insurance and she had to turn and walk away because she couldn�t afford that prescription. Women like her have no choice but to go without contraception.
Just last week, a married female student told me that she had to stop using contraception because she and her husband just couldn�t fit it into their budget anymore. Women employed in low-wage jobs without contraceptive coverage face the same choice.
And some might respond that contraception is accessible in lots of other ways. Unfortunately, that�s just not true.
Women�s health clinic provide a vital medical service, but as the Guttmacher Institute has definitely documented, these clinics are unable to meet the crushing demand for these services. Clinics are closing, and women are being forced to go without the medical care they need.
How can Congress consider the [Rep. Jeff] Fortenberry (R-Neb.), [Sen. Marco] Rubio (R-Fla.) and [Sen. Roy] Blunt (R-Mo.) legislation to allow even more employers and institutions to refuse contraception coverage and then respond that the non-profit clinics should step up to take care of the resulting medical crisis, particularly when so many legislators are attempting to de-fund those very same clinics?
These denial of contraceptive coverage impact real people.
In the worst cases, women who need these medications for other medical conditions suffer very dire consequences.
A friend of mine, for example, has polycystic ovarian syndrome, and she has to take prescription birth control to stop cysts from growing on her ovaries. Her prescription is technically covered by Georgetown�s insurance because it�s not intended to prevent pregnancy.
Unfortunately, under many religious institutions and insurance plans, it wouldn�t be. There would be no exception for other medical needs. And under Sen. Blunt�s amendment, Sen. Rubio�s bill or Rep. Fortenberry�s bill there�s no requirement that such an exception be made for these medical needs.
When this exception does exist, these exceptions don�t accomplish their well-intended goals because when you let university administrators or other employers rather than women and their doctors dictate whose medical needs are legitimate and whose are not, women�s health takes a back seat to a bureaucracy focused on policing her body.
In 65% of the cases at our school, our female students were interrogated by insurance representatives and university medical staff about why they needed prescription and whether they were lying about their symptoms.
For my friend and 20% of the women in her situation, she never got the insurance company to cover her prescription. Despite verifications of her illness from her doctor, her claim was denied repeatedly on the assumption that she really wanted birth control to prevent pregnancy. She�s gay. So clearly polycystic ovarian syndrome was a much more urgent concern than accidental pregnancy for her.
After months paying over $100 out-of-pocket, she just couldn�t afford her medication anymore, and she had to stop taking it.
I learned about all of this when I walked out of a test and got a message from her that in the middle of the night in her final exam period she�d been in the emergency room. She�d been there all night in just terrible, excruciating pain. She wrote to me, �It was so painful I�d woke up thinking I�ve been shot.�
Without her taking the birth control, a massive cyst the size of a tennis ball had grown on her ovary. She had to have surgery to remove her entire ovary as a result.
On the morning I was originally scheduled to give this testimony, she was sitting in a doctor�s office, trying to cope with the consequences of this medical catastrophe.
Since last year�s surgery, she�s been experiencing night sweats and weight gain and other symptoms of early menopause as a result of the removal of her ovary. She�s 32-years-old.
As she put it, �If my body indeed does enter early menopause, no fertility specialist in the world will be able to help me have my own children. I will have no choice at giving my mother her desperately desired grandbabies simply because the insurance policy that I paid for, totally unsubsidized by my school, wouldn�t cover my prescription for birth control when I needed it.�
Now, in addition to potentially facing the health complications that come with having menopause at such an early age � increased risk of cancer, heart disease, osteoporosis � she may never be able to conceive a child.
Some may say that my friend�s tragic story is rare. It�s not. I wish it were
One woman told us doctors believe she has endometriosis, but that can�t be proven without surgery. So the insurance has not been willing to cover her medication � the contraception she needs to treat her endometriosis.
Recently, another woman told me that she also has polycystic ovarian syndrome and she�s struggling to pay for her medication and is terrified to not have access to it.
Due to the barriers erected by Georgetown�s policy, she hasn�t been reimbursed for her medications since last August.
I sincerely pray that we don�t have to wait until she loses an ovary or is diagnosed with cancer before her needs and the needs of all of these women are taken seriously.
Because this is the message that not requiring coverage of contraception sends: A woman�s reproductive health care isn�t a necessity, isn�t a priority.
One woman told us that she knew birth control wasn�t covered on the insurance and she assumed that that�s how Georgetown�s insurance handle all of women�s reproductive and sexual health care. So when she was raped, she didn�t go to the doctor, even to be examined or tested for sexually transmitted infections, because she thought insurance wasn�t going to cover something like that � something that was related to a woman�s reproductive health.
As one other student put it: �This policy communicates to female students that our school doesn�t understand our needs.�
These are not feelings that male fellow student experience and they�re not burdens that male students must shoulder.
In the media lately, some conservative Catholic organizations have been asking what did we expect when we enroll in a Catholic school?
We can only answer that we expected women to be treated equally, to not have our school create untenable burdens that impede our academic success.
We expected that our schools would live up to the Jesuit creed of �cura personalis� � to care for the whole person � by meeting all of our medical needs.
We expected that when we told our universities of the problem this policy created for us as students, they would help us.
We expected that when 94% of students oppose the policy the university would respect our choices regarding insurance students pay for � completely unsubsidized by the university.
We did not expect that women would be told in the national media that we should have gone to school elsewhere.
And even if that meant going to a less prestigious university, we refuse to pick between a quality education and our health. And we resent that in the 21st century, anyone think it�s acceptable to ask us to make this choice simply because we are women.
Many of the women whose stories I�ve shared today are Catholic women. So ours is not a war against the church. It is a struggle for the access to the health care we need.
The President of the Association of Jesuit Colleges has shared that Jesuit colleges and the universities appreciate the modifications to the rule announced recently. Religious concerns are addressed and women get the health care they need. And I sincerely hope that that is something we can all agree upon.
pat i don't think anything will be fixed till one side takes out the other, i just hope i'm still young enough to take the fight to them when we reach that tipping point.
Third (and I am not a doctor), Fluke said that the birth control pill (estrogen) is used to prevent or mitigate ovarian cysts. If this is correct, it is a medical prescription for a health issue.
Which is specifically ALLOWED on her school's health insurance policy!
Seeing as how she has been involved in "reproductive rights" issues, and will be graduating law school, i smell a class action suit for all "the faces" she sees at her campus.
Is this her entire testimony? If so, based on the comments here, and by Rush, I bet NONE of you actually listened to it. Every word in that 11 minutes was hearsay, and anecdotal evidence about other people. If that's it, Rush Limbaugh was way off base and out of line, and so are most here when it comes to her personally, and the nature of her testimony.
I did watch it, and, as I said, it is only about 0bama requiring every HI policy to cover birth control.
You'll see her talking about hormone therapy and how that should be covered. But Oh! Wait! Nevermind! Georgetown's HI DOES cover hormone therapy!
She even admits it!
Why is she testifying then?
Her problem isn't one for Congress, and her supposed "problem" has nothing to do with 0bama's mandate that all HI should cover birth control. If she is having contractual problems with an insurer, she needs to consult a lawyer. You know that, she knows that.
This is just a deception with the intent of clouding the waters to give 0bama cover for his BS mandate - the one that include BC coverage for BC, NOT hormone therapy!
Is this her entire testimony? If so, based on the comments here, and by Rush, I bet NONE of you actually listened to it. Every word in that 11 minutes was hearsay, and anecdotal evidence about other people. If that's it, Rush Limbaugh was way off base and out of line, and so are most here when it comes to her personally, and the nature of her testimony.
I did watch it, and, as I said, it is only about 0bama requiring every HI policy to cover birth control.
You'll see her talking about hormone therapy and how that should be covered. But Oh! Wait! Nevermind! Georgetown's HI DOES cover hormone therapy! Her problem isn't one for Congress, and it has nothing to do with 0bama's mandate that all HI should cover birth control. If she is having contractual problems with an insurer, she needs to consult a lawyer. You know that, she knows that.
This is just a deception with the intent of clouding the waters to give 0bama cover for his BS mandate - the one that include BC coverage for BC, NOT hormone therapy!
Not denying that at all, just saying, the way it's been attacked by the right, and in the ways people have on this board, has done nothing but HELP their agenda. Had everyone just said "meh" and let it be the meaningless testimony it was, it would have died a quick death. Now Fluke has been elevated to victim/Goddess status in the eyes of the left, and is going to be pimping her/their agenda all over shows like The View etc.
No accident that she uses the word "contraceptive" when the rest of her testimony is about "hormonal therapy". Does anyone really believe that's a mistake from an educated woman like that?
The issue here is whether or not 0bama can force people/institutions/insurance companies to pay for contraception/abortifacents/abortions.
If you don't think that is a huge issue, then the Republic really is lost.
No accident that she uses the word "contraceptive" when the rest of her testimony is about "hormonal therapy". Does anyone really believe that's a mistake from an educated woman like that?
The issue here is whether or not 0bama can force people/institutions/insurance companies to pay for contraception/abortifacents/abortions.
If you don't think that is a huge issue, then the Republic really is lost.
I think I already agreed with that. But, I have to say, if we can keep more dummy, libs, who are to be raised by those believing in entitlement from being born to this earth, is that a bad thing?
No accident that she uses the word "contraceptive" when the rest of her testimony is about "hormonal therapy". Does anyone really believe that's a mistake from an educated woman like that?
The issue here is whether or not 0bama can force people/institutions/insurance companies to pay for contraception/abortifacents/abortions.
If you don't think that is a huge issue, then the Republic really is lost.
I think I already agreed with that. But, I have to say, if we can keep more dummy, libs, who are to be raised by those believing in entitlement from being born to this earth, is that a bad thing?
I pay taxes. If I didn't, I might not give a chit. As long as I am paying the freight, it pissses me off to have people keep tacking more stuff on that I have to pay for. Now we're supposed to pay for some lesbian's birth control and also some [bleep]'s hormone therapy? I have nothing against [bleep] or muff munchers as long as they aren't preaching to my kids or doing things of a sexual nature in front of my kids. I don't want hetero's doing those things either. The bottom-line here is who is paying for it? I don't want to. It's another nail in the coffin.
The lesbo chick is hawt though. If I weren't married I'd do her in a heartbeat. I've got earplugs from shooting so that I don't have to listen to the Commie shixt she's preaching while we're [bleep].
Maybe I got distracted by something here at work while listening, but I didn't hear her say one word about herself, or what she uses. I definitely didn't hear her talking about her own sexuality or sexual practices. In fact one of the first things she said was she was there speaking for others. [/quote]
And that sir gives you a heck of a leg up on many who are arguing the issue despite the fact that they have not bothered to see for themselves what is the real facts. The interpretations of this starting with Mr Rush are, shall we say, less than accurate.
The lesbo chick is hawt though. If I weren't married I'd do her in a heartbeat. I've got earplugs from shooting so that I don't have to listen to the Commie shixt she's preaching while we're [bleep].
Cole, don't get complacent.
A committed ideologue may know sign language as well... so, bring a bandana for your eyes or have a plan keep her fingers away from view- perhaps an oversized pair of fluffy mittens.
Just a general question. Do you people that think that worrying about what she said,blocks one from being concerned about all the other things that are hitting the fan? I am able to multitask when it comes to bi!!hing about the things in this country going to h*ll. It seems that paying for someones birth control when they are going to a school that costs a bunch of dough,just makes them upset,it does me as well. How does they have time to take all those classes,when they are having sex 4 or more times a day?
I wish I had the time to pick that testimony apart.
What a crock, for the most part.
Like what for instance?
Well, for starters, the socialist language: ......................................................... We are all grateful for the new regulation that will meet the critical health care needs of so many women.
When I look around my campus, I see the faces of the women affected by this lack of contraceptive coverage.
we students have faced financial, emotional, and medical burdens as a result,
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they tell me that they have suffered financially and emotionally and medically because of this lack of coverage.
One told us about how embarrassed and just powerless .......................................................
OMG, the emotional burden of having to take care of ones self!
Their feelers are hurt!
She speaks for the downtrodden female masses that are subjected to the ignorance of men who will not "GIVE" them contraception.
Contraception is not a medical necessity. It is not an issue with "access". The next thing will be how the poor cannot afford groceries and there should be national grocery insurance.
A lot of this is not even about "insurance", but about having someone else pay for what a person needs.
About a week or so, the night news had a woman who works for a Catholic hospital on a story about being able to get the pill. Her employer, the Catholic hospital, will not pay for it. This woman and her husband, both of whom are employed full-time, claim to be unable to afford $30 per month for birth control medications. She said the employer was "denying access" to it and she and her husband would have to take their chances!
They didn't want anymore children and $1 per day was too much to pay to avoid it.
Birth control medication has become another entitlement.
I think Rush will fluck Sandra soon... she is sitting up, she will be knocked down
For her to claim use of contraceptive is liken to me claiming to be a descendent of a slave.... On second thought, Hell yeah I am..send monetary restitution plus my 40 acres AND my mule.
What are you supposed to call a female that admits to being unmarried and having sex 3 times /day and wants money for it? He should have told her to swallow it.
from djs: Third (and I am not a doctor), Fluke said that the birth control pill (estrogen) is used to prevent or mitigate ovarian cysts. If this is correct, it is a medical prescription for a health issue. I've heard that to be why SF takes the bc, to prevent the cyst from occuring in her. She did have a pretty big cyst when she discontinued the estrogen meds. Had that sucker cut off.
Regardless she should have to pay for her Birth Control, not you and me. If you can afford to attend GeorgeTown University , you can afford to buy your own Birth Control Pills
I agree with that, just saying she alledges she uses the bc meds for ovarian cyst prevgention. I do believe that she is shilling for BO position to require bc pills be provided free by insurers. I don't understand free deal when you & me pays for the bc med through higher premiums or co-pays.
Maybe I got distracted by something here at work while listening, but I didn't hear her say one word about herself, or what she uses. I definitely didn't hear her talking about her own sexuality or sexual practices. In fact one of the first things she said was she was there speaking for others.
It would also put in to question the listening and comprehension skills of most the people making most of the comments in these threads about her and her testimony.
Many forms of birth control ARE hormonal therapy. Based upon the 'fires reaction/over-reaction to this whole nothing of a story there are a lot of folks here in serious need of hormone therapy.
How many of ya' pay for your own Viagra?lol I'm sure you're glad that medicare pays for it...fixed income and all.
Who cares? And, if she is, it's the way God made her.
I don't understand homosexuality, but it is just the way some people are born.
.............I don`t think God intentionally makes homosexual tendancy from the time of human infancy.
The inherent DNA gene business brought on by the far left, is all a ruse to justify any homosexual conduct should anyone make that choice. "Well I`m that way because I was born like that."....Bullcrap!
Homosexual conduct, is a "choice" of "free will",,not induced by God before birth by some liberal hogwash DNA crap.
Is this her entire testimony? If so, based on the comments here, and by Rush, I bet NONE of you actually listened to it. Every word in that 11 minutes was hearsay, and anecdotal evidence about other people. If that's it, Rush Limbaugh was way off base and out of line, and so are most here when it comes to her personally, and the nature of her testimony.
I did watch it, and, as I said, it is only about 0bama requiring every HI policy to cover birth control.
You'll see her talking about hormone therapy and how that should be covered. But Oh! Wait! Nevermind! Georgetown's HI DOES cover hormone therapy! Her problem isn't one for Congress, and it has nothing to do with 0bama's mandate that all HI should cover birth control. If she is having contractual problems with an insurer, she needs to consult a lawyer. You know that, she knows that.
This is just a deception with the intent of clouding the waters to give 0bama cover for his BS mandate - the one that include BC coverage for BC, NOT hormone therapy!
Not denying that at all, just saying, the way it's been attacked by the right, and in the ways people have on this board, has done nothing but HELP their agenda. Had everyone just said "meh" and let it be the meaningless testimony it was, it would have died a quick death. Now Fluke has been elevated to victim/Goddess status in the eyes of the left, and is going to be pimping her/their agenda all over shows like The View etc.
What are you supposed to call a female that admits to being unmarried and having sex 3 times /day and wants money for it? He should have told her to swallow it.
I don't argue that one bit. My point is it was a foolish thing for Limbaugh to say, seeing how the kind of hell the lib MSM would raise- a fact which Limbaugh must be aware of.
Is Fluke a you-know-what? You bet she is-by any definition that I have ever heard, at least.
What are you supposed to call a female that admits to being unmarried and having sex 3 times /day and wants money for it? He should have told her to swallow it.
I don't argue that one bit. My point is it was a foolish thing for Limbaugh to say, seeing how the kind of hell the lib MSM would raise, a fact which Limbaugh should have known. Is Fluke a you-know-what? You bet she is-by any definition that I have ever heard, at least.
I've never heard Fluke say she has sex three times a day and wants to be paid for it.
What are you supposed to call a female that admits to being unmarried and having sex 3 times /day and wants money for it? He should have told her to swallow it.
I don't argue that one bit. My point is it was a foolish thing for Limbaugh to say, seeing how the kind of hell the lib MSM would raise, a fact which Limbaugh should have known. Is Fluke a you-know-what? You bet she is-by any definition that I have ever heard, at least.
I've never heard Fluke say she has sex three times a day and wants to be paid for it.
Don't be obtuse,Tim. The general gist of her 'testimony' was that she wants to be promiscuous and have the tax payers foot the bill for her contraceptives, which is total BS.
Liberals always want to promote their free-loading activities,,,on our dime and never on their own dime.
Libs never want to spend their own money to promote their own garbage dependency programs. But they sure enjoy spending everyone else`s money,,,aka Obama and his deceived followers.
Who cares? And, if she is, it's the way God made her.
I don't understand homosexuality, but it is just the way some people are born.
.............I don`t think God intentionally makes homosexual tendancy from the time of human infancy.
The inherent DNA gene business brought on by the far left, is all a ruse to justify any homosexual conduct should anyone make that choice. "Well I`m that way because I was born like that."....Bullcrap!
Homosexual conduct, is a "choice" of "free will",,not induced by God before birth by some liberal hogwash DNA crap.
Bigsqueeze,
I agree and disagree.
I believe that there are certain sins that each one of us deals and struggles with. Lying, stealing, lust, gluttony, ect. Homosexuality is another sin that certain people can fight on a daily basis. It may be the way were created after the fall that each of us has our own cross to bear. The reality is, if we act on those sins. To just say that I have a tendancy to steal so I'm not going to fight the urge and steal. "It is part of my inherent DNA". This thought process is equal to what we hear from homosexuals. I deal with homosexuality so it is my nature and I'm going to act on it. We all have free will!
What are you supposed to call a female that admits to being unmarried and having sex 3 times /day and wants money for it? He should have told her to swallow it.
I don't argue that one bit. My point is it was a foolish thing for Limbaugh to say, seeing how the kind of hell the lib MSM would raise, a fact which Limbaugh should have known. Is Fluke a you-know-what? You bet she is-by any definition that I have ever heard, at least.
I've never heard Fluke say she has sex three times a day and wants to be paid for it.
Don't be obtuse,Tim. The general gist of her 'testimony' was that she wants to be promiscuous and have the tax payers foot the bill for her contraceptives, which is total BS.
I'm not being obtuse. I listen to her testimony. Obama for four more years. You Republicans really blew it.
No accident that she uses the word "contraceptive" when the rest of her testimony is about "hormonal therapy". Does anyone really believe that's a mistake from an educated woman like that?
The issue here is whether or not 0bama can force people/institutions/insurance companies to pay for contraception/abortifacents/abortions.
If you don't think that is a huge issue, then the Republic really is lost.
I think I already agreed with that. But, I have to say, if we can keep more dummy, libs, who are to be raised by those believing in entitlement from being born to this earth, is that a bad thing?
I pay taxes. If I didn't, I might not give a chit. As long as I am paying the freight, it pissses me off to have people keep tacking more stuff on that I have to pay for. Now we're supposed to pay for some lesbian's birth control and also some [bleep]'s hormone therapy? I have nothing against [bleep] or muff munchers as long as they aren't preaching to my kids or doing things of a sexual nature in front of my kids. I don't want hetero's doing those things either. The bottom-line here is who is paying for it? I don't want to. It's another nail in the coffin.
The lesbo chick is hawt though. If I weren't married I'd do her in a heartbeat. I've got earplugs from shooting so that I don't have to listen to the Commie shixt she's preaching while we're [bleep].
I would love to hear this spoken in front of a church congregation.
I wish I had the time to pick that testimony apart.
What a crock, for the most part.
Like what for instance?
Well, for starters, the socialist language: ......................................................... We are all grateful for the new regulation that will meet the critical health care needs of so many women.
When I look around my campus, I see the faces of the women affected by this lack of contraceptive coverage.
we students have faced financial, emotional, and medical burdens as a result,
<again>
they tell me that they have suffered financially and emotionally and medically because of this lack of coverage.
One told us about how embarrassed and just powerless .......................................................
OMG, the emotional burden of having to take care of ones self!
Their feelers are hurt!
She speaks for the downtrodden female masses that are subjected to the ignorance of men who will not "GIVE" them contraception.
Contraception is not a medical necessity. It is not an issue with "access". The next thing will be how the poor cannot afford groceries and there should be national grocery insurance.
A lot of this is not even about "insurance", but about having someone else pay for what a person needs.
You're a smart guy, Jim. You can see this.
Got to give you credit. At least you looked at it intellectually, and didn't call her a slut, or worry about her sexual orientation. And you're right, but again, all this stupid crap by folks like Rush has done nothing but keep her (and the agenda) in the spotlight.
No need to worry on the grocery insurance. We have 1 in 6 Americans on food stamps now and with a little bit more effort on the state level, we can get that number up.
"Sandra Fluke doesn�t speak for me. Or for Georgetown.
She doesn�t speak for those of us who worked hard to be able to choose to come to a great institution with a great tradition of faith and scholarship. She certainly can�t speak for the Jesuits who dedicated their lives to God and Education with a long established set of rules. There are only ten of them, and Ms. Fluke would do well to give them a quick read.
If she wants a more liberal sex life, she can go to Syracuse. (Syracuse, I must apologize � but we are in March and basketball matters � sorry you got caught up in this.)
Sandra doesn�t even speak for all skanks! She only speaks for the skanks who don�t want to take responsibility for their choices. That�s a tiny group of people."
You used to sound halfway intelligent, now you sound more like a douchebag with nothing to add but regurgitated drivel and mindless attempted insults.
The Viagra comment struck a nerve eh?
I don't think you understood me.
I was trying to point out that the govt. should not be in the position of paying for contraception, Viagra (although I can see how that could be argued as a quality-of-life treatment), medical marijuana.
As I've posted in several other threads over the last year or so, it's akin to demanding "grocery insurance" because the price of food is too high.
None of it is about access or insurance. It is about having someone else (employer, taxpayers) pay the bill. Savvy?
Your ad hominem verbage adds nothing to your "argument".
Who cares? And, if she is, it's the way God made her.
I don't understand homosexuality, but it is just the way some people are born.
.............I don`t think God intentionally makes homosexual tendancy from the time of human infancy.
The inherent DNA gene business brought on by the far left, is all a ruse to justify any homosexual conduct should anyone make that choice. "Well I`m that way because I was born like that."....Bullcrap!
Homosexual conduct, is a "choice" of "free will",,not induced by God before birth by some liberal hogwash DNA crap.
Bunch of left hog crap it they could have proven the DNA crap it would have been documented in spades by now. Talk is cheap.
There was an email sent from Georgetown University which claimed that Ms.Fluke is a lesbian.
Why is this important? Rush is a fat ass drug user and I don't think that being a fat ass affects his ability to fan the flames of hate. Who really cares about her sexual likes or did likes? Its about Birth Control and access to it using perception drugs coverage.
I understand that Viagra is covered under most or all insurance plans. You guys who use it must be "Male Sluts and Whores" Sounds stupid doesn't it?
I understand that Viagra is covered under most or all insurance plans. You guys who use it must be "Male Sluts and Whores" Sounds stupid doesn't it?
I believe that's a liberal bullschitt myth.
Would you mind getting out your policy and letting us know if it's in there and allowed for reasons other than bladder control or some other medical issue unrelated to sex?
Boy and girls this story is only just starting to build. Just wait until its all hanging out there. Its been already exposed that she never testified to Issa's subcommittee, they arranged the tables and chairs to make it look like she was. She "testified" at the steering committee for Issa's subcommittee. Lies, lies, lies and now maybe a lezbo? It adds to her credibility and resume'.
So it looks like: 1. Sandra Fluke has political and social views that are not endorsed by the members of this board; 2. She may not be, or may be, a lesbian (in which case, she probably doesn't need birth control); 3. Law students are not sympathetic messengers for government funding of contraceptives; 4. Rush Limbaugh (and I never thought I'd quote Al Franken) is a "big, fat, idiot" who blundered into a trap, without really paying attention to what Fluke was doing/saying, and provided priceless ammo for the left. Meanwhile the right is stuck with a guy who's a "messenger" and a "driving force" when he's on, and only an "entertainer" when he pooch's it...
[quote=northwestalaska] I understand that Viagra is covered under most or all insurance plans. You guys who use it must be "Male Sluts and Whores" Sounds stupid doesn't it?
Time will reveal who Fluke really is. A well vetted drone for the DNC. I see they are already dredging up her statements of a couple years ago advocating for complete insurance coverage for "gender re-assignment". We've only begun to see the tip of the iceberg.
You used to sound halfway intelligent, now you sound more like a douchebag with nothing to add but regurgitated drivel and mindless attempted insults.
The Viagra comment struck a nerve eh?
I don't think you understood me.
I was trying to point out that the govt. should not be in the position of paying for contraception, Viagra (although I can see how that could be argued as a quality-of-life treatment), medical marijuana.
As I've posted in several other threads over the last year or so, it's akin to demanding "grocery insurance" because the price of food is too high.
None of it is about access or insurance. It is about having someone else (employer, taxpayers) pay the bill. Savvy?
Your ad hominem verbage adds nothing to your "argument".
I took it as you accusing me of using MJ. If not I apologize. I work for very hard to keep myself in shape. I work out, eat right, rarely drink and have never smoked. It was out of character for you and perhaps I misunderstood your inference.
Medical MJ has many therapeutic associations and could justfiably be prescribed long before Viagra for quality of life issues.
I just find it ironic that it's usually the old SS/Medicare guys that protest the loudest about "footing the bill"...all the while popping pills and hard-on meds on the taxpayers dime. And before they start yelling again I know y'all paid in your 5% or whatever but y'all are exhausting it faster than I can pay for it.
I understand that Viagra is covered under most or all insurance plans. You guys who use it must be "Male Sluts and Whores" Sounds stupid doesn't it?
I believe that's a liberal bullschitt myth.
Would you mind getting out your policy and letting us know if it's in there and allowed for reasons other than bladder control or some other medical issue unrelated to sex?
Well you beleive wrong! Not on medicare as I still pay my own way but having worked in the medical field for years it is prescribed and costs are covered by medicare for hard-on meds.
[quote=northwestalaska] I understand that Viagra is covered under most or all insurance plans. You guys who use it must be "Male Sluts and Whores" Sounds stupid doesn't it?
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I believe that's a liberal bullschitt myth.
Are you a Viagra using slut and whore?
Yea, I go down three times a day, and I expect you to get off your lazy welfare bum ass and get a job to buy me rubbers.
I got that friend, but press her for answers on that, is a surefire way for the GOP to have it blown up in in their faces. If the liberal media won't press her, the smart move is to leave it alone.
This whole story about Fluke and Rush, is the lame stream media`s and the democratic party`s way of diverting as much attention away from Obama`s miserable record as is possible.
This probably won`t be the last incident before November.
The liberal left in this country reminds me of the primitive 6th century towel heads in Afghanistan. They made sure that all hell broke loose after a couple of measly Korans were "accidently" burnt.
Do ya think that if any of these towel heads burnt a couple of Bibles here in the states, that we Catholics and Christians would come out of the woodwork, act the same way and then kill people in the same fashion?.....................Hell no.
Double standards are not restricted to this country.
Bill Maher and the liberal left are such enormous hypocrites all across the board.
If conservatives echo the same sentiments against them that they themselves echo against conservatives, then all hell breaks loose from the left. When the left opens its mouth, the media is silent. But when the reverse happens, the media are like a bunch of swarming cockroaches which they are.
The liberal left expects tolerance, while they themselves have no tolerance when they themselves are criticized.
Whomever the GOP nominee is,,,,,FOCUS LIKE A LASER ON OBAMA`S RECORD and rip it apart.
... Is this her entire testimony? If so, based on the comments here, and by Rush, I bet NONE of you actually listened to it. Every word in that 11 minutes was hearsay, and anecdotal evidence about other people. If that's it, Rush Limbaugh was way off base and out of line, and so are most here when it comes to her personally, and the nature of her testimony.
Ding Ding Ding, we have a winner!!!
Actually, we don't have 11 minutes to find out what happened we are too busy typing our outrage at what somebody else thinks might have happened!! Damnit!
That, and vilifying some woman we have never met or listened to!
Some people have revealed their Algebra skills, but shown their reading comprehension, and knowledge of primate biology to be sorely lacking.
All in all, another standard non-event at the 24 hr cyber-campfire.
How about we finish off with 10 pages of calling each other names, then we'll retire to the internet, and find a made-up article to re-post, containing 2-3 guaranteed tear-jerking motifs, followed by a general chorus of +10, huzzah! and "Damn-Straight"
I thought Barry Hussein has said ad naseum that the economy is Bush's fault.
Nice try ball licker
Originally Posted by djs
Originally Posted by Karnis
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Is the economy fixed?
I'm thinking not. It will when more libtards leave the WH and Congress.
The economic situation is global, not US confined. Until the global economy recovers, we are just going to wallow along with the rest of the world, regardless of who is president or who controls the congress.
Once the Greek/Italian/ Spanish, etc. debt crisis is resolved, I'm afraid we will make no progress.
... Is this her entire testimony? If so, based on the comments here, and by Rush, I bet NONE of you actually listened to it. Every word in that 11 minutes was hearsay, and anecdotal evidence about other people. If that's it, Rush Limbaugh was way off base and out of line, and so are most here when it comes to her personally, and the nature of her testimony.
Ding Ding Ding, we have a winner!!!
Actually, we don't have 11 minutes to find out what happened we are too busy typing our outrage at what somebody else thinks might have happened!! Damnit!
That, and vilifying some woman we have never met or listened to!
Some people have revealed their Algebra skills, but shown their reading comprehension, and knowledge of primate biology to be sorely lacking.
All in all, another standard non-event at the 24 hr cyber-campfire.
How about we finish off with 10 pages of calling each other names, then we'll retire to the internet, and find a made-up article to re-post, containing 2-3 guaranteed tear-jerking motifs, followed by a general chorus of +10, huzzah! and "Damn-Straight"
YMMV
Sycamore
Sorry, I missed that. I was busy writing an uninformed post, expressing my outrage, devoid of facts and logical reasoning, but maxing out the hyperbole. You were saying?
No accident that she uses the word "contraceptive" when the rest of her testimony is about "hormonal therapy". Does anyone really believe that's a mistake from an educated woman like that?
The issue here is whether or not 0bama can force people/institutions/insurance companies to pay for contraception/abortifacents/abortions.
If you don't think that is a huge issue, then the Republic really is lost.
I think I already agreed with that. But, I have to say, if we can keep more dummy, libs, who are to be raised by those believing in entitlement from being born to this earth, is that a bad thing?
I pay taxes. If I didn't, I might not give a chit. As long as I am paying the freight, it pissses me off to have people keep tacking more stuff on that I have to pay for. Now we're supposed to pay for some lesbian's birth control and also some [bleep]'s hormone therapy? I have nothing against [bleep] or muff munchers as long as they aren't preaching to my kids or doing things of a sexual nature in front of my kids. I don't want hetero's doing those things either. The bottom-line here is who is paying for it? I don't want to. It's another nail in the coffin.
The lesbo chick is hawt though. If I weren't married I'd do her in a heartbeat. I've got earplugs from shooting so that I don't have to listen to the Commie shixt she's preaching while we're [bleep].
I would love to hear this spoken in front of a church congregation.
Travis
Not in my personality to do such as that, as evidenced here on the fire. You OTOH...
Lieing to Congress. I hope they throw the book at her like they did to Eric Holder. This bunch is running Congress now. You guys put some queers in office to represent you now they own you. hahahaha
I though it was a press conference, not a congressional hearing. Didn't they just set it up to look that way?
The liberal left in this country reminds me of the primitive 6th century towel heads in Afghanistan. They made sure that all hell broke loose after a couple of measly Korans were "accidently" burnt.
Do ya think that if any of these towel heads burnt a couple of Bibles here in the states, that we Catholics and Christians would come out of the woodwork, act the same way and then kill people in the same fashion?.....................Hell no.
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If we were occupied by an army of Muslims, who set up a puppet government, and burned Bibles, then hell YES Christians would be coming out of the woodwork to get some Muslim occupier scalps.
The liberal left in this country reminds me of the primitive 6th century towel heads in Afghanistan. They made sure that all hell broke loose after a couple of measly Korans were "accidently" burnt.
Do ya think that if any of these towel heads burnt a couple of Bibles here in the states, that we Catholics and Christians would come out of the woodwork, act the same way and then kill people in the same fashion?.....................Hell no.
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If we were occupied by an army of Muslims, who set up a puppet government, and burned Bibles, then hell YES Christians would be coming out of the woodwork to get some Muslim occupier scalps.
....Under those circumstances, then I`d agree with you.
How many of you send your kids to be taught by a liberal gay homosexual queer or lesbian teacher. Most today are and they also like to work in kids minds to think like them. That is why you should be concerned about them. They need to be damed every chance you get to do it.