I know many of you are fans of Mitt's off shore holdings and of Mother Jones but is this the man any of you really want to be in charge of the country? The man is a cheat and the system provides him a easy way to do it.

Take a few mins and read....


Link http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/09/mitt-romney-offshore-investments-cayman-islands







Tough to pay taxes and support the country that gave him his breaks when he hits his money...But it is all legal! Our system is broken when it provides for this type of shady system!





Perfect!

Who the [bleep] cares? You would have to be a [bleep] idiot to even consider not voting against Obama.

Ok I am game.....Why?

Try using your big words and not your sweat words.

If you don't know...you're one of them.

One of whom?

A vote for either Obama or Romney is a vote for the destruction of what little freedom we have remaining.

I don't waste my time on lost causes, except TRH, 'cause he's like kicking a cat. It doesn't do any good, but it's still fun.

So I can assume that you to are a mindless drone who is following the pack of Lemmings over the cliff. You have no reason other than "One of them"?

Very sad but understandable!

I know you think that [bleep] is cute, but it's not. You, and yours, are the only hope that Obama has.

So What is the problem? The system. Fix the system if you want but this class warfare is a bunch o schit. A bunch of people envious of another because he done good in life while they did not. Cry babies, all. miles

walt calling somebody a Lemming, is hilarious.

You're two of them.

stxhunter, How did our Buddy's arm get? Is this Sharkathon week? And last but not least, is he able to fish it? miles

he heal up fine and will be fishing sharkathon this weekend.

You can give credit to Obama for allowing women in the rangers now.

http://sofrep.com/7125/chicks-go-to-ranger-school/


It was clear that nobody�s opinion was being solicited. The message came from the Chief of Staff of the Army, and the order seems to have come from echelons above him: Ranger School will admit women within a few months. And the women willpass, whatever it takes.

Female officers have complained that the lack of the school credential disadvantages them for promotions and commands, and in an election year their complaints have found champions among the political appointees in the Office of the Secretary of Defense. In a Department whose highest priority is the Secretary�s million-dollar Gulfstream commute, and that has lost interest in two ongoing wars and a dozen other flashpoints where soldiers risk their lives daily, a stroke of a pen can upend a 60-year-old course that embodies a tradition with roots in the 18th Century.

And it just did.

The Ranger Training Brigade has been told to roll the welcome mat and the first class could be 03/13 but will definitely be 05/13 at the latest. Each class in the remainder of FY 13 will receive five to eight women, and the treatment, mentoring, nurturing and ultimate success of those female candidates will be intensively managed by the Chief of Staff and the Sergeant Major of the Army, not to mention civilian appointees. The male candidates in the same courses are not of interest to the command, as long as they don�t interfere with or criticize the women. Even the timing of the feminized classes was established for political reasons: to ensure that a fait accompli of female Ranger attendees, if not graduates is presented to the incoming SecDef and Secretary of the Army if, as the current leaders think likely, their patron is defeated in November. They did not want to put women in class 1/13, which starts in October, to prevent Congress from intervening before the elections, but 2/13 is an outside possibility.

Current Ranger graduates, Ranger veterans, and the Ranger units and Ranger training establishment were never consulted about the decision. Officers who argued against it in Pentagon meetings have already been dismissed or shunted into career-ending punishment assignments.

The RTB has not been directed that all female candidates must pass regardless of performance, and Ranger Instructors will retain a limited ability to dismiss an individual underperforming woman from the course, as long as �enough� women remain to please the higher-ups. But they will have to justify every dismissal to the highest levels of command, who have made their intention clear. Regardless of performance, the majority of women attendees must pass � at least as high a graduating percentage as the men in the same class. For the first time in Ranger history, graduation will be guaranteed � for some.

You know if you though about it for just a few minutes you would come to realize that the tax shelter system and the Rich Guys who abuse it cost the country much more than the welfare cheaters. The welfare bunch cheat a few thousands of $ over the course of a year but the Mitt's of the world are stealing billions and they call themselves the "Job Creators" Bull $hit!

Same, same public schools. If the slow ones can't keep up, dumb down the smart ones. Rush talked about this liberal look at life today and how they hate it when it comes to Referees in the NFL. miles

Help me out here...What does that have to do with Mitt and tax havens?

The real problem with Romney's offshore account is that they are his and not yours.

Too bad the resident of the whitehouse didn't conduct his mis-administration as transparently as you post.

As it is evident with talking heads on both sides. Have you ever watched the "Ed Show" Talk about dumbing down. Sheee.

Great news. miles

The warped liberal outlook. miles

Never heard of the "Ed Show" but it seems that you got enough dumbing down for the both of us. miles

Yep. NWA is a mind numbed democrip drone. He gladly gets his Alaskan PFD every year. Until the IRS changes the tax rules, what Romney is doing is legal, just ask the democrip members of Congress about their offshore holdings.
You'd be a fool if you didn't!!
But we can see, NWA likes to play the class warfare angle.

What's the weather looking like this weekend?

Good sharkin' weather?

Miles:

The Ed Show is the intellectual equal of the Five on Fox Noise.

A lot more than the non-sensical [bleep] you post you ignorant mofo! SU is pointing his finger at the veritable destruction of the institutions that maintain liberty, while your dumbass posts , "He's got money offshore, which means he COULD be a tax cheat (even though he released his returns) so therefore he IS a tax cheat"

NW is a school-teacher, NW has a dick, therefore NW COULD be a child-molester, therefore NW IS a PEDOPHILE!!!!

That's how [bleep] silly you are. GFY.

Bigturd... Yes I pick up my PFD every year and it is not just given out to good looking democrats you know!

I agree with you about that it is legal and that is the problem. If Mitt were to say something real about his mystery plan to save the country like I will close the loop hole that I have been so successfully using all of these years thus saving the country Billions! I would be impressed!

Fat chance of that!

Good job using those big words!

might get some rain.

NWA is a shill for the unions and democrips. He mind is corrupted by too many democrip CD's screwed in.

Romney's '11 taxes were more than enough. Tell me, NWA aka blubber breath, is $1.9 million in federal, $1.3 million is state, $4 million is charitable (but he only claimed $2.25M) enough taxes? On investment earnings of $13 million?
Is that enough you "pos" commie moron or do you want it all?

It rained here last night.

I wonder if Mitt's ever done any offshore fishing?







I betcha Ryan would be up for that.

WTF is a sweat word?

BW, what's an Alaskan PFD, is it a free check and groceries for being a lazy no working, no spine having dumbphuck?

Gunner

your mother jones article is nothing but smear and innuendo....no facts, not even an allegation that Romney did anything unethical, much less illegal.

the economy is global...remember, you commies used to like that?....and so is investing and banking. get over it.

The real problem is not only Romney but 10's of thousands of others that have done this can tell obammy to FOAD it he decides to tax the pee out of them. It's not a smart thing to have all your eggs in one basket these days.

Nevermind, I looked it up, still a [bleep] hand out from the gov tit.

Gunner

You mean the Ed Schultz who flies his plane up to a fishing resort in Canada he bought as an investment? The same Ed Schultz who frequently harps about buying American?

I used to invest in a China ETF and made $$$ off it too.






I used the ca-ching I made to go offshore fishing.

Since we're talking about offshore would this be considered hijacking or pirating a thread?

Don't know if it is a hijacking or pirating a thread, but it is more interesting than the original thread.

And not unethical like J. Francois Kerry moving his yacht anchorage to avoid taxes.

(says Rebecca Wilkins, the senior counsel for federal tax policy at the nonprofit Citizens for Tax Justice.)

Wasn't she one of the women that Howard Stern interviewed ?

Or Corzine,or Geithner and the list goes on.

Of course,Romney's corporate taxes are at 35% before he has a chance to invest but don't let it keep the mental midget takers of this world from claiming a larger share of someone else's pie.

Not only is nwa a total under-achieving failure,he's freaking because it's all about to catch up with him.

Romney gave more to charity in one year than Biden has his entire life. He should be grateful guys like Romney are out there. They pay for his food stamps.

Does any really believe that only republicans take advantage of tax shelters?

You mean beside lying dumbass Walt?

Maaaaan, the drivel here has moved from artesian to volcanic.

Here's an offshore volcano in Alaska.

Not to mention muddied analogies!

Yup. For those too timid or shy, its time to step aside!
Its high time to push back on the bovine excrement that gets thrown around here.
We have a socialist to throw out of the White House and a party to purge from Congress. Either join in or stand back!
Your kids and grand kids can thank you later.

;-{>8

Offshore cow.

The real problem with offshore investments is that our confiscatory rates are so high that forces the wealthy to look elsewhere to invest. How stupid is that?
Oh, I know you socialists want it all........but you will only get it once.

OK, now it makes sense. :-(......

What Language is this???????



After using Google Translate.......

These offshore accounts (with their secrecy) are in the same category as Romney's unrevealed tax returns. there may be nothing wrong with either, but it just paints the wrong picture.

Typical class warfare from a liberal douche.

US tax rates are on the low side of the scale, not confiscatory; especially as to the 15% on capital gains. here's a chart comparing rates with other nations: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tax_rates

And, income taxes are only one form of tax levies. Real estate, sales, and, other taxes are higher in many other parts of the world.

What unrevealed tax returns are you alluding to now? What is wrong with profit? What picture do you want painted?

People invest in other parts of the world ALSO to make money on foreign investments.
Its called diversifying your portfolio. With the minimums being between 100K and 1M plus expenses associated with doing that, I am sure their tax advisers have looked at the pros and cons.
What other class warfare argument are you going for next?

Good read:

http://www.fincen.gov/news_room/rp/advisory/html/advis14.html

Excerpt:

United States Department of the Treasury
Financial Crimes Enforcement Network

Subject: Transactions Involving The Cayman Islands
Date: July 2000
Advisory: Issue 14

This Advisory is being issued to inform banks and other financial institutions operating in the United States of serious deficiencies in the counter-money laundering systems of the Cayman Islands. The impact of such deficiencies on the scrutiny that should be given to certain transactions or banking relationships involving the Cayman Islands, in light of the suspicious transaction reporting obligations of financial institutions operating in the United States, is discussed below.

The Cayman Islands, located between Cuba and Honduras in the Caribbean Sea, is a Caribbean dependent territory of the United Kingdom. Its population is approximately 40,000.

Notwithstanding its small land area and population, the Cayman Islands is home to a well-developed offshore financial center. In March 2000, authorities in the Cayman Islands reported that more than 570 banks and trust companies, 2,238 mutual funds, and 499 captive insurance companies were licensed in the Cayman Islands. In addition, approximately 40,000 offshore companies are registered in the Cayman Islands.

The counter-money laundering regime embodied in the legal, supervisory, and regulatory systems of the Cayman Islands suffers from serious systemic problems.

Your precious excerpt is 12 YEARS OLD. Try again.

If Romney invested ALL his money in the US, there would STILL be detractors here finding fault with something. It would never end, its how the left works.

citizens for tax justice is a hard lefty lobby dedicated to massive redistribution, raising rates on the productive, taking as many people off the tax roles as possible, and continued funding of government at increasing levels, BTW. not a source I'd want to rely on.

LOL Steve some of these people want to hear anything but the truth.

uh, no....we are actually THE highest corporate tax rate in the developed world:



On Sunday, April 1, Japan lowered its corporate tax rate, leaving the United States with the highest effective rate among developed countries: 39.2 percent.


responsible management of any multi-national organization would structure its operations to avoid activities in such a high tax environment to the extent possible.....and they do.

It's not about the economy or jobs. It's about Mitt's tax returns. Or his video. Or whatever he does or says.... It's not about what the current office holder has done or not done in the last 3.5 years. We are just SO obtuse...

Its called deflecting and diversion. Create little issues to occupy the time while Rome burns and the country is lost.
Its a trick that the democrips have mastered the mainstream media encourages.

What would have changed in 12 years?

What would have changed in 12 years? [/quote

Much of the furor over tax havens remains more heat than light. A slew of jurisdictions, including Austria, Luxembourg, Jersey, the Cayman Islands, Bermuda, Mauritius and Switzerland itself have signed agreements in the last few months promising to exchange tax information. �We have made more progress in the last three months than in the 10 years before that,� Angel Gurr�a, the Secretary-General of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, said in June.

and after the UBS scandal, the Switzers have blown open the doors for the IRS.

What about the concept of HIS MONEY is so damned hard to understand.



Let's talk about what HIS ROYAL INEPTNESS has done with our money.



And OUR NATION.



Why all the threads about "watch the shiny red herring?"

Romney doesn't have any credibility problems at all compared to the big "O" who isn't even an American citizen and his dhimocrat party. Magnum man

As long as it's legal, how Romney or anyone else invests her/his money is the business of only the investor. I hold no ill feelings for Romney because of how he chose/chooses to invest his money. That's his business...as long as it's legal.

Well, I did find out from a reliables source today that Romney is a bad Mormon.

I've checked the Bible & Joseph Smith ain't listed as a prophet anywhere in it. It is a serious sin to add to or subtract from God's word.

That's nuthin, I walked to school uphill both ways. Did ya walk or did ya take your lunch?

Uphill both ways? Hell I walked uphill all three ways, in snow, in Orange County where it ain't snowed 'cept on days I had to walk to school, even in hot Santa Ana winds.

No, I didn't take my lunch. I didn't have to. Chicks fed me.

Just sayin you could probably track a pile of TARP money to one of Mr. INEPTNESS's accounts somewhere if you looked hard enough.

How about zer0 and I swap tax rates? I paid 25.5% federal taxes last year while dear leader paid 20.5%. Zer0 made about 300% of my income if you can believe him. The talk about fair share makes me want to barf!

Yessir, and for me being a small businessman and working my slave ass off I got to pay 35%, nice eh?

Gunner

You FK'in nailed it right there Brutha PAMac.

Gunner

You're not being honest. Were you being honest, I'd expect you to respond to my posts when I address yours, and you rarely if ever do. Perhaps it's not as much fun to do so as you like to pretend.

+1000

This is dammed propaganda!

Especially this:



Did you know that Obama is a criminal? A huge portion of black men are criminals and Obama is black. So that means he is a criminal.

He was talking about corporate taxes. When your business earns money it has to pay taxes on it and then you pay taxes on it again.

I don't kick a cat every day either, even though they're always hanging around.

I believe this is the only reasonable response...

AMEN!

I doubt your sincerity.

"Uphill both ways? Hell I walked uphill all three ways, in snow, in Orange County where it ain't snowed 'cept on days I had to walk to school, even in hot Santa Ana winds.

No, I didn't take my lunch. I didn't have to. Chicks fed me."




All right, finally, you are making more sense.

Folks in that top 1% club did not reach that level by looking for ways to dispose of their income. They look for ways to retain as much as possible. The wife and I used IRA's as a means of lowering out taxable income for years, and I see no crime in that. We stopped that effort entirely when they were no longer an advantage. Moving investments and returns out of country makes perfect fiscal sense. Most of us are just jealous that we're not saddled with the same issue.

Bravo!

Yes

Between

Obwan and Romney

Romney is the man I want to run the country

Thanks

Snake

Let's refresh this thread....

LOL and what the [bleep] is this reliable source. You guys have you head buried in you ass. URL please.

Harry Reid is the reliable source

If you can't believe Harry Reid who can you believe?

Do you need Obwan to say it?

"Mitt Romney is a bad Mormon"

http://washingtonexaminer.com/harry-reid-mitt-romney-is-a-bad-mormon/article/2509006

I'm thinken he was joshen

Snake

Gentlemen,

I'm not certain (though I might well imagine )what Walt the pretender has spewed forth other than what has been quoted. With that said, this thread reminds me of the discorse in the new Avengers movie where Thor, after being told of Loki's crimes of terror and murder, states: "He is adopted"...

bhtr

TRUE! Who gives a scheit about where Romney has his money parked? There are most likely at least several hundred THOUSAND rich bass turds with millions of dollars stashed overseas and that would include about 50% of them BEING DEMOCRATS! You're just jealous you don't have that kind of scratch to park "offshore"! Where the hell do you think Al Gore stashes his cash? OFFSHORE! GET OVER IT AND GROW UP ! It's reality and the way things are in this country today and is done by people of every damm party and persuasion!

I read the article....it's a ridiculous article designed to enhance class warfare and create an issue that does not exist.Not surprised NWA falls for it hook, line and sinker.

As a US citizen, Romney should be free to stash his money anywhere in the world he wants and if that is beyond the grasp of leeching politicians and self-entitled parasites like NWA and the bogus author spouting platitudes about "inequality",he should be free to do it....after all,it is "his" money;not the governments.


If the US government were run responsibly,had an intelligent tax code and did not pursue confiscatory tax policies of redistribution and to support an ever expanding,bloated Federal Government,Romney might leave it here. Unfortunately it does none of these things,spends like a drunken sailor,and expects people like Romney to hang their fortunes out where the govenment parasites can grab what they want.They (and people like the OP)behave like the money is theirs!LOL!

No small wonder people move money off-shore. I'm not surprised and don't blame them.

I'm even more surprised I took the time to respond to this OP and his stupid thread...

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I thought that Mitt was born in Mexico...that would make him a citizen of....Mexico? Maybe he should stash his money in Mexico!

The problem is the tax law. The loopholes were written by rich white guys to benefit rich white guys, not any of us. I do not fault Mitt for hiding his money all round the world so he pays less taxes, the laws allows it. He should not pretend that he is a common man and that 47% of the country are slackers when he has a system that allows him to avoid taxes. I think Mitt should tell us specific ways he would close loopholes and specific programs he would cut.

Even the nit-wit Perry tried to list 3 agencies that he would close if elected, prior to having a brain cramp! Mitt should tell us something specific because his big brush strokes are not working and he is about to loose this election by huge numbers. Remember I have said Mitt will loose by 12 points. I don't think Obama will win by 12 but Mitt will loose by 12 points. Get the bigger picture here.

Turd Sandwich...Tasty!

You might be suprised how many Democrat politicians have money in overseas banks.

The problem is that there is something seriously wrong with our country, tax code and economy when successful individuals find it ine their best interest to put their assets overseas. Our system punishes success vs. fostering it.

Tax avoidance is legal.

Tax evasion is not.

The difference is many on the Left do not like tax "avoidance" by wealthy people;they think that should be illegal, too.

Which is (really) silly.

Romney will not lose by 12%(if he loses at all and I don't think he will)....they are duping you.

This is another problem for the Mittster...He is not real.



As long as they are not part of the 47% that pay no taxes and will vote for Obama. Mitt's job is not to worry about those folks!

Link: /romney-ohio-heart-aches-struggling-americans-153739193--election.html


Turd Sandwich!
R


Reform needs to include closing all those Mitt sized loop holes!

Dude...get over it. O is done...the most embarrassing episode in US history is almost over.

On Nov 7th I will be expecting you PM telling me that I was right! See ya then.

Who is a bigger burden for the GOP ticket? Mitt the flopper of Ryan who offends everyone but the base. These 2 guys cannot attract anything other than you hardcore guys on the right. Can't win when you only attract 37% of the country and piss off the Sr., women, latino, black and all of middle American vote.

Do the math, ain't no way it will happen. On Nov 7th I will still respect you when Obama has 4 more years and the house belongs to the Dems. Well, that may be a bit of a long shot!

OT, but why does the shadow of the steer have a dorsal fin?

Obama being re elected is a long, long shot, and if he is, he won't last two years. The social(ism) experiment has failed...again.

Are you up for a Beer Bet?

The real problem is NOT Romney's investments,it is northwestalaska and people who think like him.Is he really a schoolteacher?That explains a lot,although I consider him too inarticulate to teach. Monashee

I sure hope he isn't a school teacher. He's virtually illiterate.

If you look at the performance of the schools where he teaches, you'd understand.

Careful, he'll think ya called him a bass turd.

Lott...Where do I teach? Most of you tell me I really in San Francisco. So are you sure that I teach and if I do where?

I really work for the Federal Government at the IRS office in FB.

Couldn't stand the suspense: I broke my own rule and remembered this...
I just found the toggle feature ...




Looks like the "pretender" has found new digs...
or?

What is needed is to cut gov waste which means almost all spending. Then cut taxes for everyone who pays taxes.

wish that were true, it'd be less loathsome to think of you being a stupid gov't bureaucrat that doesn't interact with kids than one who does.


you're in over your head Walt, but it's amusing seeing you choking on that chit sandwich you keep referencing.