I think I met lesbians for the first time, so my questions is...
With the bull lesbian do you shake hands like you would a dude or not, she had fairly firm grip but still very effeminate hands, where the other one was much more lady like.
I still don't get lesbianisum, seems pretty hard to have two door knobs and no keys.
Sitting in the Las Vegas airport at the moment watching two ugly lesbians swap spit as I write this. They are intentionally making a spectical of themselves.
Sitting in the Las Vegas airport at the moment watching two ugly lesbians swap spit as I write this. They are intentionally making a spectical of themselves.
Most gays do , they want the world to know they are queer . They wouldn't be doing this if they didn't have a audience
Sitting in the Las Vegas airport at the moment watching two ugly lesbians swap spit as I write this. They are intentionally making a spectical of themselves.
Most gays do , they want the world to know they are queer . They wouldn't be doing this if they didn't have a audience
i never did understand that. it's not like i run around kissin' and humpin' on my wife in public just to show everyone that i'm straight. it's like they use their sexuality as a way if identifying who they are.
Bi is okay nothing like a good threesome! Most lesbians hate "bi's" since they can't make up their mind?
Homosexuality is not natural since we humans could not or would not procreate to continue the survival of our species but that's another argument?
Well, a cow still gets bred by a bull, but you often wonder why the cows hump the other cows all the time.....
Bulls hump other bulls too and even steers get in on the action.
Homosexuality is still wrong regardless of what animals do or how hawt the two chicks are. As far as I'm concerned, everybody who is free, white and twenty-one can do what they want, but I'm just sayin'...
Homosexuality is still wrong regardless of what animals do
I listened to a man talk about the fact that some primates practice homosexuality as an indicator to how normal and natural it is.
So I schit on the floor and threw it at him.
The munkee house at the zoo is always full of kids and adults watching the nasty little [bleep]. I like watching otters and penguins and such instead. You haven't lived until you've heard a couple of them big tortoises mating. It will scar you for life.
I still don't get lesbianisum, seems pretty hard to have two door knobs and no keys.
I got news for you. You ain't ever gonna get the key in the knob. It goes in the keyhole. That there is one of the reasons there is Lesbians. Some guys think the key goes in the knob.
I think I met lesbians for the first time, so my questions is...
With the bull lesbian do you shake hands like you would a dude or not, she had fairly firm grip but still very effeminate hands, where the other one was much more lady like.
I still don't get lesbianisum, seems pretty hard to have two door knobs and no keys.
Just like you do in any social situation - you shake hands in the manner of the person you are shaking hands with. Mirror hand position and pressure. Shake hands in the same way you would with anybody.
Sitting in the Las Vegas airport at the moment watching two ugly lesbians swap spit as I write this. They are intentionally making a spectical of themselves.
Most gays do , they want the world to know they are queer . They wouldn't be doing this if they didn't have a audience
They wont even come out the closet around here, they be target of the local skin head dudes and their Doc Marten stompers if they did.
If the chicks like chicks, then why are they with chicks that look like dudes? I'm confused...
+1
Uh yeah, specially when they strap on something that looks identical to a mans piss pipe and wear each others stupid asses out with it when the tongue tickler becomes a bore.
Bi is okay nothing like a good threesome! Most lesbians hate "bi's" since they can't make up their mind?
Homosexuality is not natural since we humans could not or would not procreate to continue the survival of our species but that's another argument?
Well, a cow still gets bred by a bull, but you often wonder why the cows hump the other cows all the time.....
Bulls hump other bulls too and even steers get in on the action.
Homosexuality is still wrong regardless of what animals do or how hawt the two chicks are. As far as I'm concerned, everybody who is free, white and twenty-one can do what they want, but I'm just sayin'...
Never said I'm on a side here... just commenting if its so non natural why is it all over the animal species?
If the chicks like chicks, then why are they with chicks that look like dudes? I'm confused...
+1
Uh yeah, specially when they strap on something that looks identical to a mans piss pipe and wear each others stupid asses out with it when the tongue tickler becomes a bore.
Theys some severly confused heifers.
Gunner
This one yeah I don't get at all.... don't want a ()*) but strap one on anyway....
So much funny [bleep] in this thread and so much truth.
I saw an absolute butch lesbian when I arrived at a friends wedding a few weeks ago, walked out from behind her car wearing a wife beater, Chollo pants, shiny shoes and hair greased back. Tat's running down her face, neck and covering both arms. My first thought was she was from the catering company or at the wrong wedding.
Well damned if butch didn't have the most stunning woman at the event, a light skinned Hispanic, tall, lean, beautiful face, short mini skirt and semi-transparent blouse...she looked classy.
All I could think about about was her manwoman was exactly that, a woman trying to look like a man.
Must suck to have to both men and women after your women
Well, a cow still gets bred by a bull, but you often wonder why the cows hump the other cows all the time.....
For those who might not know, it's a darn good thing cows exhibit his behavior. We had a small herd of pure bred Brahma cattle on our place where I grew up and we raised pure bred calves annually. It wasn't worth keeping a bull on the place to breed the cows since they're damn near more trouble than they are worth with tearing down fences to fight with another bull across the road, pawing up big deep bull holes, etc. So we kept a nitrogen tank with select semen ready to AI the cows when they came in heat - that is to bred the cows artificially with 'A Bull In A Tube'. Worked darn near perfectly every time (over 25 years) and was much cheaper and less trouble than having the real thing in the pastures. And you could order semen from world class pure bred Brahama bulls coveniently stored in frozen ampules for use as needed.
And the telltale sign of a cow comimg in heat = when the other cows would ride her.
Just a precursor and hopeful prelude to the real act but instinctive to an animal - maybe these females are simply confused and in a perpetual state of pre-heat?
Worth no more than your admission price and possibly a worthless observation by a backwoods country boy / cowboy who moved to the suburbs.
I agree, it is confusing. Why date a woman that looks like a man, straps one on like a man but has a puzzy? If you want a man that bad, just get one. Wonder if the butch ones go out drinking and nite and get cursed out for coming home late smellinug like beer? It's not a bad deal for the butch ones though, they get to have a nice lady and they are so damn ugly they would never get a man. Pretty much a relationship of convienience.
I have a short extention cord that I carry on my service truck that has two female plug ends on it..... I pull it out at opportune times that present thierself along they way.
The folks that I would generaly lend it to to use are like... "hey, this is kind of stupid,Thats not gonna work.... I'm like...."EXACTLY..... DUH..... think about it...."
If the chicks like chicks, then why are they with chicks that look like dudes? I'm confused...
+1
Uh yeah, specially when they strap on something that looks identical to a mans piss pipe and wear each others stupid asses out with it when the tongue tickler becomes a bore.
Theys some severly confused heifers.
Gunner
This one yeah I don't get at all.... don't want a ()*) but strap one on anyway....
LMAO, no kiddin Rost, I do have it on good authority that wimmin folk would rather be stabbed to death than tickled to death. <G>
I agree, it is confusing. Why date a woman that looks like a man, straps one on like a man but has a puzzy? If you want a man that bad, just get one. Wonder if the butch ones go out drinking and nite and get cursed out for coming home late smellinug like beer and tuna? It's not a bad deal for the butch ones though, they get to have a nice lady and they are so damn ugly they would never get a man. Pretty much a relationship of convienience.
Bi is okay nothing like a good threesome! Most lesbians hate "bi's" since they can't make up their mind?
Homosexuality is not natural since we humans could not or would not procreate to continue the survival of our species but that's another argument?
Well, a cow still gets bred by a bull, but you often wonder why the cows hump the other cows all the time.....
Bulls hump other bulls too and even steers get in on the action.
Homosexuality is still wrong regardless of what animals do or how hawt the two chicks are. As far as I'm concerned, everybody who is free, white and twenty-one can do what they want, but I'm just sayin'...
Random acts of attempted copulation (with the same gender) by animals in response to estrus signals is not what homosexuality is. Homosexuality is the pairing off by individuals of a species with the same sex of another member of the species to the exclusion of opposite sex intercourse. Animals don't do that. But even if they did, it would still be wrong. Some animals eat their young when stressed. That doesn't make it right behavior for humans.
Bi is okay nothing like a good threesome! Most lesbians hate "bi's" since they can't make up their mind?
Homosexuality is not natural since we humans could not or would not procreate to continue the survival of our species but that's another argument?
Well, a cow still gets bred by a bull, but you often wonder why the cows hump the other cows all the time.....
Bulls hump other bulls too and even steers get in on the action.
Homosexuality is still wrong regardless of what animals do or how hawt the two chicks are. As far as I'm concerned, everybody who is free, white and twenty-one can do what they want, but I'm just sayin'...
Random acts of attempted copulation (with the same gender) by animals in response to estrus signals is not what homosexuality is. Homosexuality is the pairing off by individuals of a species with the same sex of another member of the species to the exclusion of opposite sex intercourse. Animals don't do that. But even if they did, it would still be wrong. Some animals eat their young when stressed. That doesn't make it right behavior for humans.
Point taken. Obviously you know a lot about homosexuality.
Homosexuality is still wrong regardless of what animals do
I listened to a man talk about the fact that some primates practice homosexuality as an indicator to how normal and natural it is.
So I schit on the floor and threw it at him.
Which brings to mind the recent Gitmo Bay news about inmates throwing chit at the guards.
I believe we SHOULD close Gitmo down. Hell- even give the inmates a choice on release:
A. We fly them half way back to their home country and release them. If interested, the home country can pick them up there. (That 30,000 foot drop into the ocean may make them hard to find, tho...., but we could GPS tracker em.)
B. Release them in San Diego among already established quarters for like-minded chit-throwing inmates.....
Naw, I wouldn't want to subject those gorillas in the San Diego Zoo to such a negative influence - forget this one... but it would be amusing.
Homosexuality is still wrong regardless of what animals do
I listened to a man talk about the fact that some primates practice homosexuality as an indicator to how normal and natural it is.
So I schit on the floor and threw it at him.
That is one of the funniest posts ever! You should send this to Larry The Cable Guy or someone. Somebody with IT skills should make a poster. This could go national!
I deal with it in a simple fashion, I walk away in the opposite direction. At least for the rude ones, most of them are. As for the other thing, you have not lived till you seen a monkey [bleep] fight at a monkey house at a zoo. I saw one at the Bronx Zoo back in 1962! It was something! As for the turds at Gitmo well, a sound proof room, with a drain in the floor, and a 32 ACP Walter PP would be how I would deal with them. After all it was fine for the Polish Officers and they were lawful soldiers!
A licker friend of ours in town occasionally likes to spoil herself and go mad on d!ck, I saw her last Friday whilst doing the banking and asked how she was. With a big stupid grin she proudly informed me that she was walking bow-legged, so I told her that a lemon would fix that!
She looked at me and asked how the hell a lemon was going to stop her being bow-legged, so I told her that it wouldn't help that but it would sure as hell take that f_cking big smile off her face.
Good thing she has a sense of humour, she thought it was hilarious.
I always wanted to try that line...I am pleased I got to use it.
Bi is okay nothing like a good threesome! Most lesbians hate "bi's" since they can't make up their mind?
Homosexuality is not natural since we humans could not or would not procreate to continue the survival of our species but that's another argument?
Well, a cow still gets bred by a bull, but you often wonder why the cows hump the other cows all the time.....
Bulls hump other bulls too and even steers get in on the action.
Homosexuality is still wrong regardless of what animals do or how hawt the two chicks are. As far as I'm concerned, everybody who is free, white and twenty-one can do what they want, but I'm just sayin'...
You should watch young buck goats go at it. They don't just go through the motions. They get it done.
God gave us some specific commands regarding sex. Homosexuality is strictly prohibited, both male and female.
If the chicks like chicks, then why are they with chicks that look like dudes? I'm confused...
Yep, they are typically paired off as a masculine and a feminine chick, and likely retain those roles during sex, too. Which would seem to indicated that it's a mere perversion of normal relations rather than a legitimately distinct sexual orientation, at least for the "lipstick lesbians." The bull dykes are likely for real, and depend on the confusion of sexually normal women to get partners.
I have a vague memory of having my ass stomped by what I have come to believe must have been a Bull Dyke Lesbian.
61 yrs ago I didn't get along to well with one of my female classmates. I remember walking out of Kindergarten that day and a really big, older, ugly, man looking girl, jumping me and working me over pretty good. She was my female classmate's sister.
Bi is okay nothing like a good threesome! Most lesbians hate "bi's" since they can't make up their mind?
Homosexuality is not natural since we humans could not or would not procreate to continue the survival of our species but that's another argument?
Marriage and monogamy are not natural either since we humans would have our gene pool compromised by weak satellite males procreating. But... that's another argument.
If the chicks like chicks, then why are they with chicks that look like dudes? I'm confused...
Yep, they are typically paired off as a masculine and a feminine chick, and likely retain those roles during sex, too. Which would seem to indicated that it's a mere perversion of normal relations rather than a legitimately distinct sexual orientation, at least for the "lipstick lesbians." The bull dykes are likely for real, and depend on the confusion of sexually normal women to get partners.
Your master's degree in psychology really comes in handy, Hawk.
If the chicks like chicks, then why are they with chicks that look like dudes? I'm confused...
Yep, they are typically paired off as a masculine and a feminine chick, and likely retain those roles during sex, too. Which would seem to indicated that it's a mere perversion of normal relations rather than a legitimately distinct sexual orientation, at least for the "lipstick lesbians." The bull dykes are likely for real, and depend on the confusion of sexually normal women to get partners.
Your master's degree in psychology really comes in handy, Hawk.
Very impressive for sure, from lesbians to pitt bulls, I bet either one could just think about farting and Hawk could tell you exactly what they had for lunch! ..laffin
Thats funny, years back I was working at a boat dealer and 2 gals came in looking to trade their boat in on a new one, guess what the name of their boat was?? "Lickity Split" painted across the back of the boat.
I worked with lots of 'em back when I was rangering. Public agencies are full of them, even managers. I got on with them, all except one. She grew a better mustache than I could, damn that pissed me off.
bugger off meatwad, we are trying to have an intelligent conversation about rug munchers and $500 Schnee boots. If I want any chit from you I'll sqeeze your head.
wait....that's it, the voices in my head are telling me to put you on ignore
what i would give to be a 15 year old girl for day
Not a problem, go to your f_cking room and do your homework, when that is finished you can do your washing and put the dishwasher on. And you can stop hogging the bathroom!
I dont think there is any suchbthing as a real lesbian. I think there are fat and ugly women who claim to be leabians because they cant get men. I think there are young women who claim to be leabians because its PC. But once any of them get cock inside them. They enjoy it
I dont think there is any suchbthing as a real lesbian. I think there are fat and ugly women who claim to be leabians because they cant get men. I think there are young women who claim to be leabians because its PC. But once any of them get cock inside them. They enjoy it
That is idiotic. Some of the ugliest women I've ever seen had kids. Some one is bone'n em. As a man, I think men are repulsive, I have no idea why a woman would want a dude floppin all over her. But if the entire world was gay, I'd be one flamboyant hetero!
I know a guy who had a sex-change operation to become a woman so that he/she could become a lesbian. I had previously thought such a daring act would cause a tear in the space/time continuum but I suppose since it didn't the universe freely admits such things...
I know a guy who had a sex-change operation to become a woman so that he/she could become a lesbian. I had previously thought such a daring act would cause a tear in the space/time continuum but I suppose since it didn't the universe freely admits such things...
Hmm, I suspect that he did not think that through too well.
A lesbian told me once that most lesbians she knew, the feminine halves anyway, had been sexually abused as kids by older male relatives.
That was thirty years back, prob'ly still true of many today plus nowadays its considered cool and trendy among the high school generation. A byproduct of the ready access to pornography.
My own take; just part of the continued self-destruction of the West.
"That was thirty years back, prob'ly still true of many today plus nowadays its considered cool and trendy among the high school generation. A byproduct of the ready access to pornography."
I believe there is a lot of truth in that. I know two women both with gown kiids now that if it had been popular and accepted back in the 50's as it is now they would have been lesbians.
Just wasn't done back then. Same with any homosexuality.
Yet many man's dream/reality is a threesome with a couple of ladies, eh?
Yep, this appears to be the case. To any guy who would enjoy seeing two ladies getting it on, he has sexual issues of his own.
Saw this thread on LESBIANS. They are typically the biggest troublemakers in places of employment. But, even the big butch ones can play the gender card for their convenience, because they have a vaj yet more testosterone than most men ... even the ones who beat their chests on this very forum. And this whole trendy bisexual thing with high school and college girls today: just kick them to the curb. But, guys are stupid ... and accept this these days. Force them to both buy lots and lots of powerful batteries and get full-time girlfriends.
Yet many man's dream/reality is a threesome with a couple of ladies, eh?
Yep, this appears to be the case. To any guy who would enjoy seeing two ladies getting it on, he has sexual issues of his own.
Saw this thread on LESBIANS. They are typically the biggest troublemakers in places of employment. But, even the big butch ones can play the gender card for their convenience, because they have a vaj yet more testosterone than most men ... even the ones who beat their chests on this very forum. And this whole trendy bisexual thing with high school and college girls today: just kick them to the curb. But, guys are stupid ... and accept this these days. Force them to both buy lots and lots of powerful batteries and get full-time girlfriends.
I think I know why you know so much about lesbians, Larry.
Yet many man's dream/reality is a threesome with a couple of ladies, eh?
Yep, this appears to be the case. To any guy who would enjoy seeing two ladies getting it on, he has sexual issues of his own.
Saw this thread on LESBIANS. They are typically the biggest troublemakers in places of employment. But, even the big butch ones can play the gender card for their convenience, because they have a vaj yet more testosterone than most men ... even the ones who beat their chests on this very forum. And this whole trendy bisexual thing with high school and college girls today: just kick them to the curb. But, guys are stupid ... and accept this these days. Force them to both buy lots and lots of powerful batteries and get full-time girlfriends.
I think I know why you know so much about lesbians, Larry.
I've seen what crappy, disruptive workers they make. Then, throw in that they're unattractive. That's for the ones over 30.
Then, think Facebook. I see that my friends have daughters starting college and their Facebook pages declare they are "bi" and show off pictures of their "girlfriends." Sorry, TMI, and I don't want to visualize these girls playing stinkfinger in their residence hall at college.
You watch TV? Some issue is on the news every night, about lesbians being denied adoption rights or whatever. Kudos to the French, who Americans typically dislike. They descended on their capital in big numbers and rallied against the new law allowing same-sex marriage. I thought they were real liberal. I was relieved to find out they're not.
Take the short man syndrome,...combine it with the indignity of being born without a peter,..and you end up understanding the personality of a lesbian.
Well, a cow still gets bred by a bull, but you often wonder why the cows hump the other cows all the time.....
For those who might not know, it's a darn good thing cows exhibit his behavior. We had a small herd of pure bred Brahma cattle on our place where I grew up and we raised pure bred calves annually. It wasn't worth keeping a bull on the place to breed the cows since they're damn near more trouble than they are worth with tearing down fences to fight with another bull across the road, pawing up big deep bull holes, etc. So we kept a nitrogen tank with select semen ready to AI the cows when they came in heat - that is to bred the cows artificially with 'A Bull In A Tube'. Worked darn near perfectly every time (over 25 years) and was much cheaper and less trouble than having the real thing in the pastures. And you could order semen from world class pure bred Brahama bulls coveniently stored in frozen ampules for use as needed.
And the telltale sign of a cow comimg in heat = when the other cows would ride her.
Just a precursor and hopeful prelude to the real act but instinctive to an animal - maybe these females are simply confused and in a perpetual state of pre-heat?
Worth no more than your admission price and possibly a worthless observation by a backwoods country boy / cowboy who moved to the suburbs.
A friend of mine in high school had a huge dairy farm and we would have to go out and look for other cows riding each other then write the number of their ear tags down so his dad could give them some love armpit deep!
Yet many man's dream/reality is a threesome with a couple of ladies, eh?
Yep, this appears to be the case. To any guy who would enjoy seeing two ladies getting it on, he has sexual issues of his own.
Saw this thread on LESBIANS. They are typically the biggest troublemakers in places of employment. But, even the big butch ones can play the gender card for their convenience, because they have a vaj yet more testosterone than most men ... even the ones who beat their chests on this very forum. And this whole trendy bisexual thing with high school and college girls today: just kick them to the curb. But, guys are stupid ... and accept this these days. Force them to both buy lots and lots of powerful batteries and get full-time girlfriends.
You're an idiot. What an uneducated synopsis from a mentally impotent person. You still however hit more key points than obumma ever has.
Yet many man's dream/reality is a threesome with a couple of ladies, eh?
Yep, this appears to be the case. To any guy who would enjoy seeing two ladies getting it on, he has sexual issues of his own.
Saw this thread on LESBIANS. They are typically the biggest troublemakers in places of employment. But, even the big butch ones can play the gender card for their convenience, because they have a vaj yet more testosterone than most men ... even the ones who beat their chests on this very forum. And this whole trendy bisexual thing with high school and college girls today: just kick them to the curb. But, guys are stupid ... and accept this these days. Force them to both buy lots and lots of powerful batteries and get full-time girlfriends.
Don't knock it till you try it !! Guess if playing with two ladies don't turn you on maybe you got a thin g for guys ?
My story is this, met a young dyke through the work place, found we had things in common and got along just fine. Ended up working for the same company, met her SO and we ended up taking a cruise, after the first night, all bets were off. Been almost 20 years now, good times mostly, and definitely interesting. Could not see living life any other way.
Me too Bro, 260 lbs of flat top haircut wearing BULLDYKE.
Gunner
Having seen you I don't think you would be anyone's bitch. I'm positive you would be the one with the big black loggerhead strapped to your waist. LMFAO! Damn, I just threw up a little.
I took my wife to San Francisco for a romantic weekend years ago. I guess I am totally naieve, but we go to this little restaraunt down town [bleep] city and we sit down and wait, and wait, and wait to get served. Then I start noticing that the waiters---and customers all look like [bleep]. There were women in their too, but maybe they were homos too. We obviously did not fit in---middle aged straight couple wearing levis and boots.
They weren't gonna serve us 'cause we were a straight couple and obviously were not welcome in their establishment. Talk about bigotry.
I took my wife to San Francisco for a romantic weekend years ago. I guess I am totally naieve, but we go to this little restaraunt down town [bleep] city and we sit down and wait, and wait, and wait to get served. Then I start noticing that the waiters---and customers all look like [bleep]. There were women in their too, but maybe they were homos too. We obviously did not fit in---middle aged straight couple wearing levis and boots.
They weren't gonna serve us 'cause we were a straight couple and obviously were not welcome in their establishment. Talk about bigotry.
Pretty sure your lack of attention had more to do with prejudices, ignorance, anger and self entitlement rather than some how stumbling upon a den of hetero hating homos. I'm sorry you have dreams of gobbling wieners or that your wife has become so hideous you are no longer sure of your own sexuality but the louder someone is, the less they believe what they are saying. Did any closeted bells happen to go off when you chose the world's most openly gay friendly city as a destination for romance? Surprised you didn't leave your manly maiden at home.
Alessio, the ignorant remarks you are making about members wives is the very lowest anyone can get. How about you just SHUT UP if you don't have intelligence enough to post something decent.
I just added you to my ignore list and hope everybody else here will do the same.
How is defending an AMERICAN'S right to freedom and equality ignorant. If an AMERICAN is gay, black, slight of build or dim witted it is my right and privilege to defend them. For presenting himself as a christian he sure seems to be taking the judging out of GOD's hands and putting them into his own. When someone makes fun of Bigbuck for his sentence structure I'll defend him too.
Aw, come on guys. This topic can be humorous. You've got overly right wing people here who thump their Bibles and largely dislike lesbians for that reason. However, their worst trait is often their behavior - the one you don't see in their bedrooms, but if you have to interact with them.
The word bull dyke is a good one. Among the various species of sharks, the bull shark, although not the largest, is the most aggressive. It is packed with the highest testosterone concentration among sharks, and maybe all mammals. If they are in a league with saltwater crocs and Komodo dragons, that says a lot. But, yeah, bull dykes seem to have a good dose of testosterone, since both men and women have both testosterone and estrogen. Look at one the wrong way and they are on the verge of picking a fight.
And, no, this isn't ignorance or being judgmental. It's just plain old live and learn.
How is defending an AMERICAN'S right to freedom and equality ignorant. If an AMERICAN is gay, black, slight of build or dim witted it is my right and privilege to defend them. For presenting himself as a christian he sure seems to be taking the judging out of GOD's hands and putting them into his own. When someone makes fun of Bigbuck for his sentence structure I'll defend him too.
Does that include freedom and equality for pederasts? How about rapists? And you're not very committed to equality for people who think sodomites are, well sodomites, are you---as evidenced by your incredibly rude and insultiung remarks.
This nation was founded free and independent on an appeal to the "laws of nature and of nature's God". Homosexuality is wrong for the same reason that slavery and genocide are wrong: it is against nature. Nature and reason tell us that a man is not an ox or a horse or a dog and with the very same voice nature and reason also tell us that a man is not a woman and ought not be treated as one and that the right ordering of sexual relationships is is between members of the opposite sex, not the same sex. No one is denying sodomites the freedom to sodomize all they want. Nor is anyone denying them equality. What is being denied (or at least attempted) is the right of people such as myselt to our opinion that homosexuality is a crime against nature. And that denial is made by your effort to intimidate and silence anyone who has the temerity to declare that homosexuality is immoral.
Way to think for your self. I work with and am friends with gay people, I can see they love each other the same way I love my wife. You judge them based on something you were told, people aren't born with distane. No one will ever convince you that homosexuality is natural and exists in all animals but fortunately people with your obsolete ideology will die off and the next generations will be more tolerant and evolved. Racists don't become enlightened, they die and take their ignorance with them.
So the only truth you believe in is that which you yourself have experienced or seen or learned on your own. You put no value in things taught or learned from the generations before us. And "New" ideologies are the only "good" ideologies. If you're waiting for the Christian ideology to die off and go away, keep waiting. We started with 1, then 13 and became what we are today in number, and have lasted 2 thousand years. You might want to put a little more thought into something that has the power and truth to be passed on from generation to generation for 2000 years. I'm just saying that there might be a little more to it than just ignorance, bigotry, and fantasy, Ideologies based on such weak ground tend to fade rather quickly if history or my life experience has taught me much.
A cowboy goes into a bar. An attractive woman comes in and sits next to him, so he gets up his courage and asks her to dance. She says "no thanks, I'm a lesbian." He says "what's that?? So she says: "I like pu**y." Then she gets up and leaves.
Right then, as he's sitting there absorbing this, a group of tourists comes in, spies his hat boots and belt and says "hey, are you a real cowboy??"
So he says "I thought I was, but now I think I'm a lesbian."
So the only truth you believe in is that which you yourself have experienced or seen or learned on your own. You put no value in things taught or learned from the generations before us. And "New" ideologies are the only "good" ideologies. If you're waiting for the Christian ideology to die off and go away, keep waiting. We started with 1, then 13 and became what we are today in number, and have lasted 2 thousand years. You might want to put a little more thought into something that has the power and truth to be passed on from generation to generation for 2000 years. I'm just saying that there might be a little more to it than just ignorance, bigotry, and fantasy, Ideologies based on such weak ground tend to fade rather quickly if history or my life experience has taught me much.
MM
What you believe has caused hate and religious wars. What I believe hurts no one. I have seen gay productive members of our community, you have been told your beliefs. If you were raised to believe that god was a homosexual butterfly that lived inside of the moon you'd be trying to convince me of that now. In kindergarten all children play as equals, black, white, Chinese, gay and challenged. Judging and contempt are taught. I have no interest in changing the way you think nor do I care if all of you put me on ignore. I've put my thoughts out here so that when other people stumble upon this thread they will see that not all gun carrying outdoorsmen are brainwashed homophobes.
How is defending an AMERICAN'S right to freedom and equality ignorant. If an AMERICAN is gay, black, slight of build or dim witted it is my right and privilege to defend them. For presenting himself as a christian he sure seems to be taking the judging out of GOD's hands and putting them into his own. When someone makes fun of Bigbuck for his sentence structure I'll defend him too.
Does that include freedom and equality for pederasts? How about rapists? And you're not very committed to equality for people who think sodomites are, well sodomites, are you---as evidenced by your incredibly rude and insultiung remarks.
This nation was founded free and independent on an appeal to the "laws of nature and of nature's God". Homosexuality is wrong for the same reason that slavery and genocide are wrong: it is against nature. Nature and reason tell us that a man is not an ox or a horse or a dog and with the very same voice nature and reason also tell us that a man is not a woman and ought not be treated as one and that the right ordering of sexual relationships is is between members of the opposite sex, not the same sex. No one is denying sodomites the freedom to sodomize all they want. Nor is anyone denying them equality. What is being denied (or at least attempted) is the right of people such as myselt to our opinion that homosexuality is a crime against nature. And that denial is made by your effort to intimidate and silence anyone who has the temerity to declare that homosexuality is immoral.
Spot on Rob, that's why sodomy used to be called a crime against nature, which is what it is. The homos, who constitute at most one or two percent of the population, and their apologists like Alessio think they can bully the rest of us into accepting their perversion as normal but many of us still see it for what it is.
I have no interest in changing your mind either, but won't stand to have someone smear the name of Christianity because I'd their ignorance and bigotry. Christ taught me to hate one thing, sin. I don't hate homosexuals anymore than anyone else, and I certainly don't fear them. I'm so damn sick of reading about Christians being ignorant ant hateful because we don't agree with how someone chooses to live. When did standin up for your beliefs become wrong. I guess if we just shook hands and said we're all right and there really is no such thing as wrong, Christianity would still fit in america. Thank God it doesn't.
I'm so damn sick of reading about Christians being ignorant ant hateful because we don't agree with how someone chooses to live.
It's none of your business. God didn't ask you to do anything about it. God didn't tell you personally that it is wrong. You are choosing to believe a book that may or may not have anything to do with a higher power. Your views and opinions when verbalized are lowering peoples self esteem.
Originally Posted by mitchellmountain
When did standin up for your beliefs become wrong.
When it hurts people whose actions don't hurt you.
It is well documented that gay animals exist in nature all over the world. Gay clown fish occupying the same anemone, gay Mallards and swans who have been together for years and I've even seen a picture of two bucks during a [bleep]. So if it occurs in nature without coercion by definition it is natural. If god is infallible and there are gay animals then being anti-gay is an act against god. Believe what you see not what you've been told. People don't need to follow something written by man and said to be by god to know how to treat each other.
I've put my thoughts out here so that when other people stumble upon this thread they will see that not all gun carrying outdoorsmen are brainwashed homophobes.
My thoughts on your thoughts are you should GFY!!!
... but fortunately people with your obsolete ideology will die off and the next generations will be more tolerant and evolved.
Careful what you wish for.....Its our obsolete ideologoical asses that have allowed homosexuals the freedom to make the choices that thier making now.
More tolerant and evolved huh?.....
Let me know how that works out for you in the midst of the impending radical muslim onslaught... We'll see what direction THAT kind of ideological evolution and tolerance takes you and the homosexuals.
So in your line of thinking if it occurs in nature then it is morally correct. Think I'll go out and kill my neighbors( wolves compete and kill each other over infringement in territory) because they walked on my property. After that I'll go smother my kids(happens all the time with pigs in a pen), and then I'll tell my wife to kill and eat me( spiders do it all the time, as do praying mantis). Or maybe I'll just go out and dump a bunch of poison in the local lake and kill all the living organisms in it, plants, fish, wildlife, people all of it.( bacteria that breed in bodies sometimes produce toxins that kill that body and other bacteria). What argument could any of my intended victims have, if it happens in nature it is without reproach and perfectly acceptable.
Remember MM your only wrong and hateful if you disagree with them......Typical liberal attitude.
IMO, Liberalism and Homosexuality are two of the purest forms of selfishness.
I'm baptized, Republican and card carrying life member of the NRA who enjoys the freedom to think for himself. Try it sometime.
You can pretend to be anything you want, You're actions are what defines you to other people. So far your actions here have not portrayed you in a very good light......Carry on dufus.
I'm so damn sick of reading about Christians being ignorant ant hateful because we don't agree with how someone chooses to live.
It's none of your business. God didn't ask you to do anything about it. God didn't tell you personally that it is wrong. You are choosing to believe a book that may or may not have anything to do with a higher power. Your views and opinions when verbalized are lowering peoples self esteem.
Originally Posted by mitchellmountain
When did standin up for your beliefs become wrong.
When it hurts people whose actions don't hurt you.
It is well documented that gay animals exist in nature all over the world. Gay clown fish occupying the same anemone, gay Mallards and swans who have been together for years and I've even seen a picture of two bucks during a [bleep]. So if it occurs in nature without coercion by definition it is natural. If god is infallible and there are gay animals then being anti-gay is an act against god. Believe what you see not what you've been told. People don't need to follow something written by man and said to be by god to know how to treat each other.
Oh brother, she's played the "self-esteem" card. When I was a youngster I got caught stealing (more than once). Being disciplined and told I was wrong hurt my self esteem, but it didn't change the fact that it was still wrong!
Actually, there is no such thing as an animal equivalent to homosexuality. And even if there was, it would be irrelevant. Some animals eat their own young. That does not somehow make the behavior moral, or even natural for humans. Assuming one is an evolutionist, one is forced to admit that the existence of a homosexual "gene" cannot possibly be squared with evolution since, over time, natural selection would have eliminated that gene.
I'm so damn sick of reading about Christians being ignorant ant hateful because we don't agree with how someone chooses to live.
It's none of your business. God didn't ask you to do anything about it. God didn't tell you personally that it is wrong. You are choosing to believe a book that may or may not have anything to do with a higher power. Your views and opinions when verbalized are lowering peoples self esteem.
Originally Posted by mitchellmountain
When did standin up for your beliefs become wrong.
When it hurts people whose actions don't hurt you.
It is well documented that gay animals exist in nature all over the world. Gay clown fish occupying the same anemone, gay Mallards and swans who have been together for years and I've even seen a picture of two bucks during a [bleep]. So if it occurs in nature without coercion by definition it is natural. If god is infallible and there are gay animals then being anti-gay is an act against god. Believe what you see not what you've been told. People don't need to follow something written by man and said to be by god to know how to treat each other.
Oh brother, she's played the "self-esteem" card. Actually, there is no such thing as an animal equivalent to homosexuality. And even if there was, it would be irrelevant. Some animals eat their own young. That does not somehow make the behavior moral, or even natural for humans. Assuming one is an evolutionist, one is forced to admit that the existence of a homosexual "gene" cannot possibly be squared with evolution since, over time, natural selection would have eliminated that gene.
Jordan
Homosexuality is nothing more than a misdirection of the human sexual impulse same as pedophilia, necrophilia, etc. The differences are only of degrees, they are all deviant behaviors.
I'm so damn sick of reading about Christians being ignorant ant hateful because we don't agree with how someone chooses to live.
It's none of your business. God didn't ask you to do anything about it. God didn't tell you personally that it is wrong. You are choosing to believe a book that may or may not have anything to do with a higher power. Your views and opinions when verbalized are lowering peoples self esteem.
Originally Posted by mitchellmountain
When did standin up for your beliefs become wrong.
When it hurts people whose actions don't hurt you.
It is well documented that gay animals exist in nature all over the world. Gay clown fish occupying the same anemone, gay Mallards and swans who have been together for years and I've even seen a picture of two bucks during a [bleep]. So if it occurs in nature without coercion by definition it is natural. If god is infallible and there are gay animals then being anti-gay is an act against god. Believe what you see not what you've been told. People don't need to follow something written by man and said to be by god to know how to treat each other.
Oh brother, she's played the "self-esteem" card. Actually, there is no such thing as an animal equivalent to homosexuality. And even if there was, it would be irrelevant. Some animals eat their own young. That does not somehow make the behavior moral, or even natural for humans. Assuming one is an evolutionist, one is forced to admit that the existence of a homosexual "gene" cannot possibly be squared with evolution since, over time, natural selection would have eliminated that gene.
Jordan
Homosexuality is nothing more than a misdirection of the human sexual impulse same as pedophilia, necrophilia, etc. The differences are only of degrees, they are all deviant behaviors.
Just another sexual deviant trying to justify the sexual deviance of others to make him/herself feel better about their own actions.
... but fortunately people with your obsolete ideology will die off and the next generations will be more tolerant and evolved.
Careful what you wish for.....Its our obsolete ideologoical asses that have allowed homosexuals the freedom to make the choices that thier making now.
More tolerant and evolved huh?.....
Let me know how that works out for you in the midst of the impending radical muslim onslaught... We'll see what direction THAT kind of ideological evolution and tolerance takes you and the homosexuals.
Tolerance? Alessio, you are a seriously confused woman in addition to perhaps the least tolerant person in this discussion. Re-read some of your posts, including your gratuitous, absolutely over the top, hit-and-run attack on some of our spouses. And you have the gall to speak of tolerance?
Your confusion is boundless. The idea of tolerance as a virtue presupposes a non-subjective, non-relative basis for distinguishing the tolerable from the intolerable. We don't praise someone as being "tolerant" for "allowing" others to enjoy their preference for vanilla ice cream over, say, chocolate ice cream. And why is that? Because the preference for vanilla over chocolate is entirely subjective. You don't get credit for "tolerating" something that no one could possibly ever say is wrong. Therefore, the very definition of tolerance presupposes some objective standard for distinguishing the tolerable from the intolerable and for thus determining that it is virtuous to "tolerate" some things, precisely because they are wrong. Tolerance can't be a virtue unless the thing to be tolerated is wrong, but something which tolerance nevertheless demands be permitted to exist to some degree.
Now what, exactly is that standard of right and wrong?? You say it is the fact of the homosexual's humanity. But to speak of one's humanity as the non-relative basis for determining some things to be wrong (such as slavery---which treats a human being as if he were a dog or horse or ox) is to presuppose that something or someone intended for the distinction between the human and non-human to have moral force. Modern philosophy (of which you are clearly an adherent) tells us that facts cannot possibly possess values (the fact-value distinction). Values do not inhere in facts, we are told by the elites (such as yourself). Therefore it is senseless (we are told by the likes of you) to speak of nature telling us that something is or is not wrong. On your own premises, the humanity of the homosexual is no basis to accord him any rights whatsoever, anymore than the humanity of a black man or a Jew tells us they ought to be treated as human beings and not beasts of burden or some plaque bearing bacilli. How quaint and ill-informed that Nature, or Nature's God could or would tell us something is or is not wrong! Since you appear to be a devoted evolutionist, perhaps you ought to try and make sense of your moral indignation and its utter and complete inconsistency with your most fundamental premises.
Although you deny it, nature and the law that is in nature tells us that homosexuality is wrong as surely as they tell us slavery and genocide are wrong. The generative distinction between male and female is the ground and basis of all of human friendship and of human existence. The human family comes to sight as a giant river, flowing through the generations of time which is constituted and reconstituted in and by the distinction between male and female. Whereas heterosexuality leads to regeneration and friendship and life, homosexuality, quite simply, leads to disease and death. If the entire human family made the choice to engage in exclusively homosexual conduct, the human race would go extinct in one generation. And you call that a moral good?
It us utterly hypocritical for you to try to invoke someone's humanity as somehow according him unalienable rights while simultaneously denying any moral authority whatsoever in the distinctions in nature---the moral authority inherent in the difference between the human and non-human. In fact, the difference between male and female is actually more fundamental than the distinction between the human and non-human because nature itself is constituted in and by the distinction between the sexes.
Nature and reason tell us that a man is not an ox or a horse or a dog and ought not be treated as such, just as surely as they tell us a man is not a woman and that the right ordering of the sexual relationships is between members of the opposite sex, not the same sex.
The truth of what I have written is not affected one iota by your intolerance, rank hypocrisy and complete intellectual and moral confusion.
There are two lesbians that live across the street from us. They are the butch kind. Not attractive at all and obvious in their preferences.
Are they also kind of nasty, with a bad attitude? Our street was all owner-occupied homes and then a lesbian pair rented a house. They caused trouble and the long-timers hated them, but not because they were lesbians. They didn't stay long. Then I learned that there were others with similar attitudes. I'm going to paint this one with a broad brush. I give them a wide berth.
Wow, and I thought this thread was going to go down the humorous route. I wish I could remember more lesbian jokes. However, we've gotten into moralizing. Who cares what they do? When we were kids in grade school, we made jokes about all kinds of people, including "What did the Lord say when he created the first negro?" "Oops, I burned one." That's only funny up until about age 14. I seriously think some people who like their own gender were wired that way, by the Man Upstairs. He is not always kind. Take a look at some of the big, tough lesbians. Are they going to get asked out to the prom? No. Guys probably never liked these girls. Take a look at some of the effeminate, slim gay guys. Are girls going to be interested in them, or were they ever? No. Same kind of reciprocal situation. God made Rosie O'Donnells ... and God made beauty pageant contestants.
But the MAIN issue is their personalities. Lesbians, more so than gay guys, can't seem to check their issues at the door when they come to work. That's what affects coworkers. Not what they do in bed. Also, their nastiness is rooted in a lot of psychological baggage. I've also seen a few get fired for being troublemakers and it couldn't have come soon enough.
But there we go again - the packaged mentality that Republican = conservative = Bible thumper = homophobe. I'll go Democrat/conservative/a la carte Catholic/don't care. What I do care about is the same-sex marriage thing. It costs MONEY. This means they extend benefits to partners. In fact, I don't like the registered partnership issue either, for the same reason. It costs MONEY. They should have left it at roommate status, essentially allowing them to live like single people who are sharing living quarters. If you think Obamacare is bad or will be the thorn, it isn't. We'll adjust. The REAL problem is how same-sex marriage, the benefits, the perks, and the adoptions will toast the basic stable social structures of this country. Go ahead and enjoy your porn of lipstick lesbians or LUGs (lesbians until graduation) doing the deed, and then play the religious card. Instead, be practical about it, forget the religious aspects, and kick them to the curb, making sure that there are no pu$$y-whipped suckers paying these biotches alimony or child support when they swing the other way. Have you seen some of these girl next door actresses who have gone lesbian? Kelly McGillis and Meredith Baxter? WTF? They have hit the wall in a big way. If you sniff early on that they like the smell of poon, run. Some guys think with their small brains instead of their large brains, and the religious thinking is also small brained on this topic.
Q: What do you get when you cross an Eskimo and a lesbian? A: A Klondyke.
At the risk of generalization, it appears to me that the most obvious of homosexuals...the butchie dyke and the flaming [bleep] are exactly opposite in demeanor.
The dykes seem miserable and a beating to attempt a conversation and the flaming [bleep] are generally a blast to talk to at parties and such.
At the risk of generalization, it appears to me that the most obvious of homosexuals...the butchie dyke and the flaming [bleep] are exactly opposite in demeanor.
The dykes seem miserable and a beating to attempt a conversation and the flaming [bleep] are generally a blast to talk to at parties and such.
I feel the same way. The flaming homos are usually very kind people who are outgoing and fun to talk to but the bull dykes are just the opposite.
Yeah, flamers can be cool ... especially when they give you the wrong type of hamburger at a fast food place, then throw in the correct one when you catch the mistake, neglect to charge you for it, and flip their wrist at you smiling and saying "That's ok, don't worry about it." Bingo.
but it would be amusing.
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When I was a youngster I got caught stealing (more than once). Being disciplined and told I was wrong hurt my self esteem, but it didn't change the fact that it was still wrong!