Originally Posted by Bugout4x4
Originally Posted by stevelyn
Originally Posted by Bugout4x4
It has pretty much become universal procedure everywhere to "Identify everyone" before conducting any further conversation of any kind period.

Unfortunately this policy may actually be preventing some very serious crimes from being reported.



Some guys are just wound up too tight especially newer or just younger ones in general. Sometimes they get excited about "results" and dive in too fast without a plan or an objective and get a little spun in the process. I know. I still have to reel them in on occasion. It takes some years of experience to settle down a little.

The ID thing doesn't necessarily have to be approached immediately, you can have the conversation starting with just a name and informal conversation to break the ice, feel the person out a little and get them comfortable with talking to you. You can break into the ID/drivers license request a little further on.


Thank you for the open and honest dialog about this practice. I understand the lack of patience and "tact" you speak of when it comes to new Officers but I am still curious about why presentation of ID was even necessary in the situation presented by the OP here?

As I understand it probable cause of a possible crime being committed or the need to file additional official paperwork would be the only legal justifications for an ID request or detainment even at the Department front counter. I ask this because when ID was requested and taken away to the back he was actually being "detained" by legal definition. Right?




It's hard to say. We all (mostly) go to the same academy, but the Trooper recruits have an additional department specific 4 weeks they attend. Some of this has to do with their policies.

I also know that just about all their encounters with the public are at least documented through dispatch to account for a public contact and their time. ID request could either be to have a name to go with the public contact or they could have run the OP just to make sure there no wants or warrants.


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