In reply to the Hatfield I personally have 4 of the 12GA wood stock bought them for kids to skeet shoot with and each one has performed flawless and each one has around 1500 rounds they are reliable what sets them apart from other Turkish autos is that they are gas assisted inertia system same as what you find on browning gold and silver shotguns and no they are not browning but they do run and run well but they do seem to get dirtier faster but for the price you can buy 5 compared to one benelli and they could not tell you any different because they go bang and cycle the shells out every time