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<br>I am not going to try to convince you but reread what Big Stick and I said.
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<br>I always figured it was just the LOP from the trigger and I have shortened many of my woods rifles about 1/2" so they suit me.
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<br>Then I happened to be looking at my old Sauer drilling. This gun has always fit me so well. I figured that the LOP was short as it was from another era. I measured it from the front trigger, which is the rifle trigger also, and it is standard! So I started looking closer by holding other rifles over the Sauer to compare them. It's the pistol grip thats shorter to the butt! It's made that way of course due to a compromise for the rear trigger.
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