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Re: Why the .45 ACP "sucks" for self defense jimmyp #11719643 01/07/17
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jwp475 Campfire 'Bwana J Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 30,939 Likes: 1 USA	Originally Posted by jimmyp a 124 HST at 1200 out penetrates a 230HST at 950 in "wood, metal, etc.?? A 124 grain XTP +P in 9mm dose not out penetrate 220 Critical Duty 45 ACP +P in wood or 55 gallon steel drums. Al least not the ones I've shot. I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first

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