Originally Posted by cooper57m
Originally Posted by gitem_12
Originally Posted by cooper57m
"For the last time CARRYING A CONCEALED WEAPON IS ILLEGAL IN NEW MEXICO!"

Except if one has a CC permit (I really don't care how it is worded, if he had a CC permit there would be no crime and the LEO did not know that he did not have a CC when he seized the firearm).

As for brandishing, it is usually more than just showing an interested person your firearm. If that was the case I've committed brandishing thousands of times. While laws may very from State to State and I could not find NM's definition of brandishing, I did find this:

"{Very generally, however, for an operating definition “brandishing” means to display, show, wave, or exhibit the firearm in a manner which another person might find threatening. You can see how widely and differently this can be subjectively interpreted by different “reasonable” individuals and entities}".

Usually brandishing implies or requires it to be displayed in some level of a threatening manner.





Do you understand that under NM LAW having a concealed weapons permit is merely an affirmative defense to the crime, the same as carrying in one's owned property or vehicle, thus the mere observation of the concealed gun was REASONABLE SUSPICION OF A CRIME. upon asserts in ingredients that the defendant did not have a permit, nor was it his property, it became PROBABLE CAUSE for an arrest...is it sinking in yet?


Boy that is one fugged up law. You're ok with that?? You defend that?? When is something not against the law, when it's against the law but we have this affirmative defense thingy. CCs are illegal, 'cept they are not really, but they are. And you guys think I'm against the 2nd Amendment. Ha! Anyone who lives and stays in NM should not look down their nose at NY. Compared to NM, in many ways, NY's CC law is better, certainly a lot less complicated.


Oh?

PLEASE regale us on how NYS concealed carry laws are NOT an affirmative defense against otherwise illegal concealed carry.

This, ought to be good.


Originally Posted by Mannlicher
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