I have the Leica 4008 models, older trinovid, not new hd. They are super. Same glass as non hd ultravid. Leicas are built like a tank and much smaller than other brands, mine are about the same size as some other brand 8x32. You can't go wrong with them. I see tons of Leica stuff sell second hand in a flash, I have had Leica stuff for 30 years, including a range finder, never had issues so no CS experience except Needed new eye covers on a set of compact bins I lost, they sent with a call no charge.

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