Yep, that's the one I use but it's an old bastid. That article that was put out by Rifle magazine is very interesting and was informative for me. One of the reasons I bought the little wiggler when I found it in a local shop. Works excellent for my needs, but it may not be the best tool for someone else. This is the only reason I did not suggest it as the best and why. I say use what works for you, they all pretty much tell you the same thing, but you'd be very hard pressed finding a Brown Precision now days. I have no idea what Smoke pole is smoking either. Must be some good chit though...