Originally Posted by dla
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by dla
A lot of mindless BS about "hydrostatic shock". So it is a batch of brownies with only a teaspoon of dog shlt in it.


There's no value in getting into a battle of semantics on this topic, but anyone who has ever watched a bullet enter into gelatin in slow motion will agree that there is a "wave" the pushes out violently from the bullet. I can see how that wave of pressure could shock the animal into collapse. What do you call that "wave" and what effect do you think it has on the animal?

One thing he mentioned that I was completely unaware of is the autonomic plexus. It has been my go-to aim point for DRT shots with my mild 257 Roberts. That shot is my favorite and my experience mirrors his.

If you think a gel block is tough, you should see a deer.

No such thing as hydrostatic shock, and the pressure wave was shown long ago to be irrelevant.

If you know nothing, then the writeup will give you something - a plate of brownies made with a teaspoon of dog shlt added.


How is it that my .257 bullet at 2700 fps turns a deer heart and lungs into a gelatinous mess? Wound channels much larger than the expanded diameter of the bullet?

From Wiki:

Autopsy Findings in Iraq[edit]
An 8-month study in Iraq performed in 2010 and published in 2011 reports on autopsies of 30 gunshot victims struck with high-velocity (greater than 2500 fps) rifle bullets.[25] In all 30 cases, autopsies revealed injuries distant from the main wound channel due to hydrostatic shock. The authors determined that the lungs and chest are the most susceptible to distant wounding, followed by the abdomen. The authors conclude:

Distant injuries away from the main track in high velocity missile injuries are very important and almost always present in all cases especially in the chest and abdomen and this should be put in the consideration on the part of the forensic pathologist and probably the general surgeon.

— R. S. Selman et al.[25]

Last edited by PaulBarnard; 08/23/17.