battue, thanks for jogging my memory. I had seen the RST offerings a while back, but had forgotten about them. They are expensive, but I am no longer a high volume user. A flat of 12 ga will last a year or more. The Beretta is a beautiful gun and I enjoy using it.

I saw the Winchester load, but have not yet located them. Winchester does offer target 1oz loads at three different speeds. I was unaware of that. ,

To answer your first question, yes it is recoil. My shoulder looks as if I was beat with a baseball bat. I'm going back tomorrow. I will grab a few boxes of the slowest 1 oz load that I can find this evening. ,

Thanks,

Jack

"Do not blame Caesar, blame the people...who have...rejoiced in their loss of freedom....Blame the people who hail him when he speaks of the 'new, wonderful, good, society'...to mean ,..living fatly at the expense of the industrious." Cicero