I've been using a 28 on pigeons over my dog's for several years now, AyA matador. With the first flat of target loads I also got a mec 600 Jr. Started using it's little brother on pigeons with the dog's this year, 410 Matador. I don't shoot it near as well but all I've use so fat has been 1/2 oz loads. Yesterday I dug out my 16ga Matador and tell ya what, forgot how nice it was the shoot. If I ever hunt pheasant again it will be what I use. The 28 really won me over though. Soon as I get in a bunch of money, due in early Sept, got my eye on a Parker Reproduction in 28ga. If it get's sold before I can get to it, number two is a Merkel in 28ga. If that get's sold #3 is a CSM in 28 ga. Don't get to it I may just lay down and cry. This is gonna be my once in a lifetime shotgun! Once i get it, the 28ga Matador goes off to Missouri for a new stock! Gonna try the 410 on grouse this year too if I can find some grouse. Long way to there from where I live.