Paul I was very surprised that Hitchcock complained so much about the recoil. I like the 45 ACP but seem to be able to shoot a cheap smith and wesson 45 shield better than a 1911 these days, don't know why. I had a PM9 good gun very accurate but for me these days the P365 with 13 rounds in it has proven reliable and very accurate. On the other hand the attraction of the 45ACP has always been lower decibels on firing. Having fired a 9mm a few times without earpro I want to avoid that. I have finished a few deer/pigs/killed snakes with a 2 inch 38 or a 3.5 inch 45ACP and they are not awful in report. I believe you can achieve about the same thing with a 44 at 900 fps??