The old Remington, Savage and Winchester pumps were generally well made and are lots of fun to shoot. Watch out for a Visible Loader, they look cool but have a very bad reputation (deservedly so). It will be tough to put a scope on one of the old pumps, though. If you need or want to mount a scope, go with a modern Remington or Henry. Of the old pumps, I like the Remington 12c the best. Mine have never failed to fire and are as accurate as I am with open sights. Some people seem to like the Winchester 61's -- and the prices reflect that demand -- but I did not have good luck with the two that I've owned. You can find a 61 grooved for a scope but expect to pay dearly. I currently own a Remington 12c with original target sights and a scoped Henry; I like them both.