Thanks, I had not heard of them so I went to check out their products on their web site. Decent looking stuff. A bit to quite a bit heavier than Tarptent, Mountain Laurel Designs, and other premium products, but at a lot lower cost. I appreciate your input regarding product quality. That would seem to reduce the tradeoffs to 2: weight vs cost. Usually we gain weight AND lose quality when we cut cost so this is a real plus.

Tom

Anyone who thinks there's two sides to everything hasn't met a M�bius strip.

Here be dragons ...