thats what i shoot, they are priced about right. Nothing snazzy, simple rifle that looks good and shoots great. Their barrels are superb with ball and conical. I personally prefer the 250 and 320gr REAL bullets when it comes to shooting conicals in this rifle. Even sabots under 180gr do excellent with the 1:48 twist.

my brother in law used a brand new one at the time on this hunt wit ha 160gr Thor sabot and 90gr pyrodex rs.
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