Thanks Tex, sounds great except it won't fit in a intermediate length Mauser. Would need the standard length 98 which I have bit it's for a different project. Will probably go with the Steyr and a 22" barrel. Think it would make for a darn good elk rifle in bear country. Overkill for elk if there is such a thing but I believe Mr Grizz would regret getting into an altercation with it.